So if Tank is special why he's fighting B and C level fighters all the time?

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  1. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    Gamboa: shot, old, washed up
    LSC: not exactly Gamboa shot level, but still shopworn and a 126er as well (and can't crack an egg)
    Nunez: Who the **** is that guy???
    Barrios: decent fighter but still B level at best, lost like 8-9 rounds against Akhmedov and only won because of scoring two KDs
    Ruiz: fought his entire career between 112-122

    STOP hyping this guy.

    If he beats guys like Teo, Loma, Taylor, Ramirez, Prograis or so you can hype him up...

    So far he DID absolutely nothing.

    And yeah...he has something special but i can't figure out how you can hype a guy who has a **** resume like that. He's 27. Not 21.
     
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  2. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I'd say a fair slew of B to B+ guys, but your point stands. Maintaining that high a stoppage rate at that level also isn't quite nothing IMO - but yeah, the undue hype is completely out of proportion to his actual achievements.

    He's fast and powerful with a decent chin and average skill (if you really analyze and look past his flashy highlight-reel athletic gifts) both offensively and defensively. Not a once generational, 'The One's type of fighter. :deal:
     
  3. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    He's also got that kind of very short, very stocky physique which is gonna leave him in the Frampton-zone by the time he turns 30/31 - namely, having to fight in a weight division where his disadvantages become truly decisive. I mean, imagine him at 147? He's not got much time left to justify the hype...
     
  4. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    I thought the lsc win was pretty good. Agreed though, some cherry picking and overhyping.

    a win against those previously mentioned is what he needs, tank vs progrias? Take my money!
     
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  5. f1ght3rz

    f1ght3rz Ronaldoooo is crying in his caaaaaar Full Member

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    The way he ko'd LSC was decent, yeah. That's it.

    LSC is way past his prime, had no power at 126 and only had one fight at 130 before the Tank fight.

    LSC is a natural 118er who fought the majority of his career at 122 and 126.

    Tank beating him at 130 isn't exactly "pretty good" considering Tank fought at 140 last weekend.
     
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  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    I could see him in a few years losing at 147 to a Tewa Kiram type. Maybe not Kiram himself, as he'll be in his mid-30's with lots of miles on the odometer (with a style that doesn't age well of his own) by then, and he's what, a cruiserweight now, somehow? :lol: - but someone in the mold of the version that fought LMM. A tall, tough, basic but heavy handed sort.
     
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  7. 941Jeremy

    941Jeremy Active Member Full Member

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    Tank has limitations that his team is aware of. They will continue to be strategic going forward as far as opponent selection. Its nothing new
     
  8. Cage

    Cage Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He is over hyped at the moment, but shows great potential . . . if hes able to keep his **** together.

    I feel like the biggest negative impact on his career is his life outside the ring and feel like he will be his own undoing. . .

     
  9. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    It's so weird that he of all people is the hand-picked scion of PBF...he couldn't be any more different stylistically. For all his own faults, Broner at least emulated Mayweather (even if he fell a light year short of matching his work ethic or ring intuition).

    His 'team' is mostly yes men, with the only person in a position to effect any real change and impose their will on Gervonta to get him to leave the lazy confines of his comfort zone, would be Floyd himself - and by this point, if even Floyd has failed to identify and correct some of the glaring deficiencies in Tank's craft, then idk how much tinkering we can expect going forward. :nusenuse:
     
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  10. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Tank is just Broner 2.0 with better handlers. He’ll blow it sooner or later.
     
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  11. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What B+ fighter has Tank beaten? Best is C+ and perhaps Sta. Cruz is B-.

    B+ is someone like Bradley/Taylor/Mikey. A is JMM/Cotto/Mosley/GGG. A+ Is RJJ, Floyd, Pac, Chavez etc.

    Get your tiers right.
     
  12. JOKER

    JOKER Froat rike butterfry, sting rike MFER! banned Full Member

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    I'd slot Bradley as an A. He did soundly outbox the professor and only lost to Pac (although he could have been stopped in the Provodnikov fight and no one would have objected).
     
  13. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Fonseca is C+; Walsh is B- (and blown-up & past-prime Ruiz is somewhere between Walsh and Fonseca); Núñez and Barrios are straight B (as is the blown-up & past-prime version of Gamboa); Pedraza, Cuellar and LSC are B+.

    Don't preach to me about tiers, son. Rating fighters relative to who's active right now is a different matter than rating them historically in ATG terms (ODLH was A/A+ during his prime within his era, but is more like a high B in broader historical context). Which any fool knows, including you I think, you're just in a yapping mood and stirring the pot. :nusenuse:
     
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  14. GlassJoe

    GlassJoe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    I think that he's definitely a talent who's taken on decent to good opponents so far. I want to be a fan who encourages continual development because I always want to see more talent and great matches. He certainly has the right team behind him to learn. It's hard to find more talent than in the Mayweather gym. Just imagine training there.
     
  15. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Three B+'s that all deserve asterisks. Pedraza was drained half to death, I remember listening to an interview with him before the fight saying he could barely make weight, and basically admitted it was a money grab way to drop a belt. Cuellar was moving up after losing badly to Mares and getting dropped, he didn't have a great chin at Featherweight, based on his two brutal losses at SFW, the other one to Fortuna in just as many rounds. He clearly wasn't cut out for 130. Then well... Leo wasn't a puncher at 126, and was rocked to his core by Frampton. He had no business at all at 130.
     
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