So if Ward won the fight definitively, why did...

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  1. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    Why did the live crowd boo at the decision?

    They were very vocal for all that Ward landed throughout the fight, and then when the result was read, they were disappointed.

    How come the man that was awarded the fight looked defeated prior to the decision and incredibly surprised when the result was awarded?

    Had this fight been ANYWHERE but Vegas, it would have been a Kovalev decision or at best a draw for Ward. People laugh at the idea of fighting in Russia as it is pathetically corrupt...but, how is USA any different? Almost every fight card we see, there is at least one robbery or controversial decision.

    Don't get it twisted though, I had money on Ward (so i'm happy he won) but he didn't win the fight last night.
    He deserved to be rewarded with the heart and grit he showed. It was a great fight (minus the wrestling and tieing up). Personally, I don't think it should have been a Ward decision, but it is what it is.

    My respect for Ward went up and my appreciation for Kovalevs ability also rose. However, my disgust for this sports scoring is at an all time high. I can't stand that a fight like this is overshadowed with controversy.

    Both of these guys stepped up, fought in their prime and put their names on the line.

    Something judges should do. Step up and do their ****ing jobs properly. There was one robbery on that card earlier in the night and then the controversial decision for the main event. It happens too often and something needs to change.
     
  2. Smacked

    Smacked Active Member Full Member

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    hey this happens a lot in the US and around the world, nothing knew, most people knew kov would not get a decision in this fight, ward is a protected fighter, just like most/all US undefeated highprofile fighters are in america, the same would happen in russia, ward would not get a decision there IF he won the fight, which he DID NOT by the way, so yeah a robbery but not suprising
     
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  3. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but they don't always see everything. The viewers at home always have the best seat in the house!
     
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  4. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    If Kovalev was given the decision 116-111, I think it is in the realm of possibility.

    Boxing scoring is subjective it was a close fight could have gone either way

    CEJ beat BJS in a more decisive fashion and nobody complained when he was robbed, they applauded it
     
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  5. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Courageous performance from Ward, but he lost. Kovalev conttol the distance from start to finish, the threat of kov right hand keep ward honest.
     
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  6. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    If you give all the swing competitive rounds to Ward you have 114-113 card for ward.
    If you give those rounds to kov you have 116-111 for kov.
    My honest opinion is people who score for a Ward win are slightly bias. Good fight none the less
     
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  7. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ward has a lot of haters

    Abel and gg were doing most of the booing

    They have big mouths
     
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  8. james5000

    james5000 2010's poster of the decade Full Member

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    Classic, do you have a gif, that would be funny as hell
     
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    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    And you have shyte posts....
     
  10. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Good Lord you are an idiot.
     
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  11. Gneus7

    Gneus7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well it wasn't definitive. It was an extremely close fight.

    The crowd aren't necessarily sitting down with a pencil scoring the fight.

    The crowd don't necessarily know how to score a fight correctly.

    The crowd is not always impartial.

    I disagree that anywhere else the result would have been different. There have been unpopular/controversial decisions in other places too. Most of the rounds were extremely close and could be given to either fighter depending on a judge/observers subjective opinion. In such a fight the same result or a different result could have happened anywhere imo.

    Also Ward may have "looked defeated" because he has higher expectations of himself and was disappointed in how he fought victory and the fact that he was dropped. Has no real bearing on whether he deserved to win, lose or draw. People who clearly lost often hold their hands up and celebrate at the end of fights thinking they've won and then seem all bewildered when they realize they lost. Means nothing.

    I agree that overall in boxing the judging isn't good/fair enough.
     
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  12. kiwi_boxer

    kiwi_boxer nighty night, ellerbe ☠ ☠ ☠ banned Full Member

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    But watching live, the judges saw the same fight? You could argue that they are professionals, so they see differently to those in the crowd. However, there are hundreds of fighters and reporters live that also gave Kovalev the win.

    I understand you don't like Kovalev (your post history proves that) but, if you take your agenda out of the equation, there is no way in hell you have Ward winning all of the last 6 rounds, let alone the swing rounds. That is ridiculous. It was a very close fight, but that fact the scorecards had Ward winning all of the last 6? Nah.

    I agree that those at home get the best view, however, if that was the case, they would score the fight from a private box without the live atmosphere.
     
  13. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This.

    My opinion of Ward went up, it was very impressive the way he bounced back after two awful rounds at the start. But I don't think he did enough to win the fight.

    Think Ward has a good chance for the rematch though, his adjustments were impressive.
     
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  14. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    I'm a big fan of Kovalev actually, so if you're going to snoop around on me at least look at my post history from last year. I know it may take some time though.
     
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  15. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I honestly think Kova should've won a close decision or a draw, but it was a very close fight.

    To be fair the real robbery was Hooker - Perez. That was ABSOLUTELY garbage.
     
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