So Is Fury King At Heavyweight For Beating Wilder, Or A Bumkiller & The Win Means Nothing? Pick One.

I've never rated Wilder. He hasnt fought many of the even good heavies out there. Povetkin, Parker, Pulev, Ruiz, Whyte. Hes fought Ortiz and Fury and thats it. He is a meh boxer. He punches like a mule tho, That said Fury showed vs Wlad how good and versatile he is. All thats left for him is Joshua. He may as well retire if he beats him and ride off.

 

By beating Wilder like that, Fury hasn't shown anything we didn't already know except that he's back.
It's a good win.
And Wilder is no bum. He's a dangerous puncher.
People who know boxing know Tyson Fury is the best out there at heavyweight when he's fit and strong. The problem is, since 2018 we haven't known whether he's capable of getting fully fit and strong.
Now we know he is.

 

Nobody really rated Wilder before he beat Ortiz though. And Ortiz is just a good contender.
Everyone who knows boxing knows Wilder has the worst "10 defences" of a heavyweight world title that it is possible to have. Everyone knows his 41 KOs in 44 fights have been mostly acquired at the expense of some truly terrible opponents.

People jumped on the Wilder bandwagon a bit more when he beat Ortiz, who was a serious and skilled contender. And even against fringe contenders and third-raters it means something to consistently get the KOs like Wilder did. He is no bum. But as a 'world champion' he was always something of a joke.

 

So Fury's best win is a bum?

You want a minute?

 

You're a dishonest little weasel.
Go and watch the fight instead of posting some stupid graph that was strangely created within the last 6 hours.
If Fury was getting his ass kicked , then post those rounds and prove your point beyond dispute.

Round 11 was the round Fury had Wlad cowering away from the action and holding on for dear life having been struck with two hard left hooks.. Its the round Weeks took a point from Fury to give Wlad time to recover.

That graph is fake and you are a liar.

 

Not really, Wilder really was never that great to begin with, and Fury beating Wilder really doesn't warrant Fury all that much credit either. What Fury deserves credit for, more than beating Wilder, is his actual unique boxing skills for his size(which he has showed long before he fought Wilder) and the positive, non-defensive and aggressive attitude that he fought Wilder with in the rematch.

But as far as beating Wilder is concerned, it means very little and that much hasn't changed one-bit. Wilder has always been a protected hype-job who's padded his win and KO record against absolute scrubs with poor chin, and whenever he did step-up just a little bit, he needed help through corruption to maintain his record. Needless to say, Wilder never stepped up at the highest level against a PRIME opponent outside of Tyson Fury.

So all this praise is baseless for Wilder, since Wilder never proved anything against a PRIME elite opponent and the one time he fought one, he lost.

Achievement wise, Fury deserves very little praise. When Fury dominates for multiple years, then he'll be praised for his achievements. But right now, Fury is only getting praised by me for his unique boxing skills for his size and nothing else.

 

Exactly. Fury deserves credit - superb fighter.

 

Hahahaha here we go....

So throughout the build up all we hear about is how it's a 50/50 fight, how Wilder is the biggest puncher of all time blah blah blah.

Now Fury puts on an absolute masterclass away from home and knocks him out.... Wilder is now a bum.

Give the man credit where it's due. He's just knocked out an undefeated KO artist in his own back yard.

 

Wilder is finished. Hyped and protected. He'll retire after the 3rd fight should he take it. That is my opinion.

Fury has only just started. There is more to come. Again, my correct opinion.

Then there is Joshua who has more in his attacking arsenal than Wilder. My correct opinion.

Fury v Joshua will probably end up as a classic trilogy. I cannot wait.

 

Wilder isn't a bum. He is what he is: a very limited one trick pony. However, that one trick, his immense straight right hand, combined with his speed, height, reach, and the fact that he doesn't look to win rounds, so he can pace himself so he always has power in that right hand, even in the last round, makes Wilder a daunting prospect to face.

We all know what is wrong with Wilder, and many people have mentioned before that putting it on him is the best way to beat him as he can't fight backing up, can't counter punch, has no inside game, has bad foot work, and doesn't tie up his opponents. Unfortunately, no one has really had the ability, or even the inclination to carry out this game plan against Wilder. Fury did, and he pulled it off to perfection, so, for me, he deserves a lot of credit for this.

Wilder is just one of those anomalies you get in boxing; you can see the flaws he has, but he has a certain aspect to his game that takes him further than his overall limited abilities would have. These type of fighters can often be tricky to beat.

 

**** you man. The graph is from boxstat. You can kiss my ass, moron.

 

I haven't posted on here for a few years but this fight brought me back. Had to see what everyone was saying. It was a great post, CST. Wilder poses a threat to any HW ever, regardless of his limitations. Fury just had the stones to lay down a gameplan that few men with his back foot boxing ability would ever have been brave enough to follow through on. Terrific performance and I hope he changes his mind about finishing out the contract and then retiring because I think he still has so much left to show.

 

I understand what you mean but there's a wonderful generation of Heavyweights coming up that will be ready in the next 2-4 years and I'd LOVE to see Fury sticking around to deal with them.