So is Seth Mitchell one of the one's that was playing football that can beat the Klit

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Muhammad Ali, at 6'3" 220 with his footwork and love of the camera would have probably played as a QB or Big WR had he grown up today... And George Foreman? Are you ****ing kidding me? atsch That dude has DE written all over him. Larry Holmes, as dedicated of an athlete as he is, would have gotten put on the weights and made into a LB or TE. And Joe Frazier? If you can't picture him as a fullback, then you are the one that's tired and ridiculous. Would they have made the NFL? Who knows.



You don't want to hear the NFL/NBA argument because it doesn't fit into your notion that Americans are just inferior athletes who can't play anything but the inferior sports of Handegg, Basketball, and baseball.

 

I imagine Eastern Euros would have been a lot more competitive in boxing in the 70's and 80's. We would have had a few of them as world champs, competing with the American greats.

 

Can the football fanboys explain to me how Quadtrine Hill got KTFO in his 2nd pro fight by a bum? Why didn't all that athleticism help him? :yep

 

Quad never boxed until he finished playing at Miami.


You completely missed the point. No one is saying anyone, regardless of how naturally gifted they are, can put down another sport and jump right in the ring and start KOing motha****as. No has ever said that.


But if a lot more of those same individuals had dedicated themselves to the sport from the time they were much younger, the American Heavyweight scene would look a lot different.


99.99999% of the big athleti guys either play football and basketball, or fail trying. Then, maybe then they may pick up some boxing gloves... most likely not though.

 

Yeah, there is a point to all of this.

Guys like Ali, Foreman, Holmes and so on trained specifically for Boxing. So they grew for boxing. Mentally, Physically, Technically, COORDINATION wise, it was boxing. They were "Molded" for boxing.

If you are in a different sport, you come out different...specifically if you have started very young and grown for that sport. Even your body composition changes.

 

George Foreman a DE? No way. . . WHen he was in shape, he was like 220 pounds. . . Not nearly fast enough to be a linebacker, or strong safety. . .

Larry Holmes LB or TE? Maybe LB. . Too small/not athletic enough to be a TE.

Joe Frazier was all of 205 pounds. . . Not fast enough to be a runningback, and not nearly big enough/fast enough to be a fullback.. .

I could see Ali being a wide receiver. . .


This is all opinions, and speculation. . . We have absolutely NO IDEA. . . It's just not fair to the boxers today to make this argument. . . it is what it is. . . All because you're an excellent athlete that translated into NFL, or NBA success, doesn't mean it would translate into the athletic qualities needed for boxing. . . Apples, and oranges.

 

It doesn't mean you could "grow into" boxing, football, or whatever other sport.

There's absolutely no proven correlation between the two.

 

I didn't miss anything. Some of you ******s are using Mitchell as an example that NFL players could have been good boxers had they decided to box. It doesn't. It shows Seth Mitchell is a good boxer, that's it. The list of ex football players that failed in boxing is quite long after all.

 

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It's called muscle memory. If a guy as naturally gifted, hard-working, tough, and dedicated as Ray Lewis, Brian Urlacher, Osimenyura, Clay Matthews, Vernon Davis, Cam Newton, RG3, and yes... Tim Tebow had developed the muscle memory and coordination of a boxer... Eddie Chambers and Chris Arreola would be flipping burgers together... Seth Mitchell would have been a lifetime sparring partner...

 

Logic isn't you strong point.


These ex-football players either never picked up gloves at young ages (some as late as 27) or they stoped developing their boxing skills for ten or fifteen years while concetrating on football.


The long list of ex-NFL boxing-failures has absolutely nothing to do with what would happen if more of them had decided to box instead of football. Nothing.

 

So what about all the other intangibles of boxing? Speed, and power can only get you so far. . . And we don't even know that they would have "boxing" speed, or "boxing" power. . .

You're assuming these guys would have the mental fortitude. . . The intelligence to learn the sport. . . Being smart, and appying it to learn football, is not nearly the same as boxing!

You just can't make that parallel with nothing to support it. . .

 

At least he's using SOME kind of logic. . .

There is absolutely no logic at all in ASSUMING the star NFL players WOULD have, COULD have been world class, world champion pugilists if they started boxing at a young age, rather than football.

 

Few top athletes from any country are going into boxing at a young age, it is not a top sport anywhere in the world.
The theory that only American athletes are choosing other sports over boxing is as laughable as George Foreman having the size and speed to make a good DE.

 

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Or Joe Frazier having the sizespeed to make a good fullback... Lol Reggie Bush is bigger than Frazier.

and foreman's about the size of john lynch. . .

 

Good point, frazier would be the size of a small running back without speed and agility it takes to be successful at that position.