So, it has now been over 7 years since Pacquiao first fought Marquez.

Bee KeepZ · May 18, 2011

Even Uncle Roger thinks Pacquiao is too small for his nephew.

His views on his nephews biggest advantage if Pacquiao did take the test and they did fight:

Skills! Floyd got too much skill for him, period! And hes too small. Im not talking about the guys that he beat! Im not talking about the guys that he beat, because he beat them illegally anyway. He aint beat nobody without taking that sh*t. He aint beat nobody, period! So fighters talk about De La Hoya and all them dudes he beat, hes on that sh*t! Thats why! If he wants to fight my nephew listen! All hes got to do is take the test and we can get the fight together. Thats why the fight never happened! Oh I cant get shot with a needle! If you cant get shot with a needle then how you going to fight then? How is somebody going to take your blood then if you dont get shot with a needle? Does that make sense to you? Youre talking about a guy getting $50-60-70 million and you dont want to take a blood test? Something got to be wrong! Why wont you take a test? If you dont take a test that means you never took a test!
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tarugojones · May 18, 2011

VecArrow said: ↑

Can you believe that it's going to take the most accomplished fighter of our generation 7+ years and 19 pounds later to finally decisively beat Marquez?

What does that say about Pacquiao and his ability to deal with a little counter punching?

Most people had Marquez winning those 2 fights.
I personally had both fights a draw when I scored them.

Pacquiao and team have thought about this fight well though.
Everyone and their mommas know the catchweight where this fight would be most competitive would be at 140.

Even though Pacquiao has to force himself to eat loads to maintain the weight at 144 and could easily make 140 if he wanted, Team Pac knows Pacquiao will have the advantage because Pacquiao has fought successfully at that weight while Marquez has fought there once, and failed.

Just another fight where Pacquiao looks for advantages.
*******s will celebrate the victory as if it were greater than Ali/Foreman.
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After 7 years, Pacquiao making at least $10M per fight while JMM still making peanuts.:deal

tarugojones · May 18, 2011

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RightHandLead17 · May 18, 2011

caneman said: ↑

Don't your fellow *****s always say Pac is one-dimensional? So a green 23 year old, one dimensional Pac got a draw (only because of a judges scoring error) against a prime 29 year old future HOF and ATG Juan Manuel Marquez and scored 3 knockdowns in the process.

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In the rematch, a still green, weight drained Pac (see above), managed to beat a still prime Juan Manuel Marquez (and still HOF bound and ATG) and scored another knockdown along the way, while having blood flow into his eyes from a cut.

Now, a 32 year old Pac, in his prime, will face a 38 year old Marquez, who is slightly past prime but still #5 P4P, who looked great in his last few fights (except Floyd) will be facing Pac for the 3rd time at the same weight Floyd had initially signed to fight him at 144. Stylistically a great matchup. This time Marquez is facing Pac at his best. R.I.P. JMM :yep.
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bro' seriously how are you "green" w/ 30+ fights before a second fight w/ Marquez?

tolindoy · May 18, 2011

OnePunchKO said: ↑

OP is a ******ed *****.

Pac ducked Marquez (after 2 close fights) to fight Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley? Guys that would spark Marquez the **** out?

:huh:huh:--patschatsch

It's called Pac went on to do great things, and has since become the Cash Cow and Face of Boxing. The **** has Marquez done? Whine about Pacquiao and go through wars with B Level fighters in Diaz and Katsidis?
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TS got owned by a troll...:rofl

KnuckleUp99 · May 18, 2011

VecArrow said: ↑

Can you believe that it's going to take the most accomplished fighter of our generation 7+ years and 19 pounds later to finally decisively beat Marquez?

What does that say about Pacquiao and his ability to deal with a little counter punching?

Most people had Marquez winning those 2 fights.
I personally had both fights a draw when I scored them.

Pacquiao and team have thought about this fight well though.
Everyone and their mommas know the catchweight where this fight would be most competitive would be at 140.

Even though Pacquiao has to force himself to eat loads to maintain the weight at 144 and could easily make 140 if he wanted, Team Pac knows Pacquiao will have the advantage because Pacquiao has fought successfully at that weight while Marquez has fought there once, and failed.

Just another fight where Pacquiao looks for advantages.
*******s will celebrate the victory as if it were greater than Ali/Foreman.
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Momentum and success doesn't wait around for the ones struggling. Besides....JMM ducked the rematch back in 2004 which is why it took 4 yrs for the rematch to happen.

JMM knew what time it was after he walked out of the first meeting with his titles and a bogus draw. So he took the hint and decided it would be better for his legacy if he avoided PAC.

So instead...he took short money and a fight over in Indonesia with chris john (which he lost) instead of the immediate remeatch with PAC.

The only reason PAC hasn't fought JMM a 3rd time is simple. BIGGER FISH TO FRY! JMM didn't offer the name DLH had...or Hatton had or Cotto or Marg had. So now that PAC has cleaned and cleared out all the big name foes...>JMM is the next best option at this present time.

So he'll get his retirement check this year.

PH|LLA · May 18, 2011

What does it say abuot Ali that he struggled with Norton? Even more than Pac with JMM

this_and_that · May 18, 2011

I just got to say that...

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lufcrazy · May 18, 2011

VecArrow said: ↑

Can you believe that it's going to take the most accomplished fighter of our generation 7+ years and 19 pounds later to finally decisively beat Marquez?

What does that say about Pacquiao and his ability to deal with a little counter punching?

Most people had Marquez winning those 2 fights.
I personally had both fights a draw when I scored them.

Pacquiao and team have thought about this fight well though.
Everyone and their mommas know the catchweight where this fight would be most competitive would be at 140.

Even though Pacquiao has to force himself to eat loads to maintain the weight at 144 and could easily make 140 if he wanted, Team Pac knows Pacquiao will have the advantage because Pacquiao has fought successfully at that weight while Marquez has fought there once, and failed.

Just another fight where Pacquiao looks for advantages.
*******s will celebrate the victory as if it were greater than Ali/Foreman.
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yeah even FOTD can struggle against guys!

VecArrow · May 18, 2011

OnePunchKO said: ↑

OP is a ******ed *****.

Pac ducked Marquez (after 2 close fights) to fight Cotto, Clottey, Margarito, and Mosley? Guys that would spark Marquez the **** out?

:huh:huh:--patschatsch

It's called Pac went on to do great things, and has since become the Cash Cow and Face of Boxing. The **** has Marquez done? Whine about Pacquiao and go through wars with B Level fighters in Diaz and Katsidis?
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Pointless post, never said he ducked Marquez to fight those other guys.

What I'm saying is

First time they fought, he couldn't get a decisive victory.
4 years later and and 5 pounds heavier, he still couldn't get a decisive victory.
Now another 3 years later and 9 pounds heavier, that's what is going to take to beat Marquez decisively.

If it was at 140, i would give Marquez a chance, but at 144, Pacquiao will destroy him.

Pacquiao had to get that much bigger than Marquez to finally beat him.

KnuckleUp99 · May 18, 2011

VecArrow said: ↑

Pointless post, never said he ducked Marquez to fight those other guys.

What I'm saying is

First time they fought, he couldn't get a decisive victory.
4 years later and and 5 pounds heavier, he still couldn't get a decisive victory.
Now another 3 years later and 9 pounds heavier, that's what is going to take to beat Marquez decisively.

If it was at 140, i would give Marquez a chance, but at 144, Pacquiao will destroy him.

Pacquiao had to get that much bigger than Marquez to finally beat him.
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Manny took time evolving as a compelte fighter...but the weight definitly helps. Just like had Floyd fought JMM at 130, 135 or even 126 in his prime, it would have been a much more competitive fight than what we saw at 146!

JMM needs to be a his ideal weight to be effective. especially at this stage of his career.

MAIN · May 18, 2011

Again didn't read your nonsense mr opal

but like bald head dick u'z just a ***** ass hater

eat a dick ya *****

TheGOAT · May 18, 2011

7 years of PEE PEE drinking...

raiz07 · May 18, 2011

VecArrow said: ↑

Pointless post, never said he ducked Marquez to fight those other guys.

What I'm saying is

First time they fought, he couldn't get a decisive victory.
4 years later and and 5 pounds heavier, he still couldn't get a decisive victory.
Now another 3 years later and 9 pounds heavier, that's what is going to take to beat Marquez decisively.

If it was at 140, i would give Marquez a chance, but at 144, Pacquiao will destroy him.

Pacquiao had to get that much bigger than Marquez to finally beat him.
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Floydie needs to cheat the catchweight to beat a bloated lightweight so stfu your not answering my question :hi:

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