So it turns out Hrgovic is fighting Jerry Forrest...

I say he's a top 10 contender already, and he's ranked near the top ten at Box Rec. His ranking has little to do with ten pro fights, its based on who he's crushing in the gym, his amateur career, his ability to fight, take a punch, and throw one.

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To be honest, this didn't make Bakole a bad Heavyweight. Just confirmed Hunter as a very good one.

 

So the only way for the other contenders to earn decent money is for the to fight each other. Love it !

 

Those are ridiculous reasons to rank a fighter as top 10.
It doesn't matter who a fighter is "crushing in the gym", or what he did in the amateurs. Professional boxing's ratings should be based on what occurs in the official professional contests.

 

Exactly. Surely beating Eric Molina was never enough to get someone ranked as top 10, never mind now.
And Molina might be the best opponent on Hrgovic's record, so how the hell does Hrgovic deserve a top 10 ranking now ?

 

How can I be shut down by a question

Who knows who Mike fought in his 11th fight. It doesn't matter. He was 19 years old and going through one guy after the other in seconds.

Only 8 months after he turned pro he beat Jesse Ferguson in his 18th fight. Ferguson is better than anybody Hrgovic beat.

Shortly after his first year as a pro Mike was a world champion with 28 fights at 20 years young.

Hrgovic is almost 3 years as a pro , has had only 10 fight and his best win is an unranked Molina.

He's moving along at a snails pace.

Doubis who is younger and with far less experience has had more fights than him. He already stepped up against Gorman and is stepping up again against Joyce who Hrgovic was beaten by in the WBSS.

Mike Tyson has a historical achievement in becoming the youngest undisputed HW. Nobody will be moved that fast successfully for a long time to come , if ever.

Only somebody like you would try to take that achievement from Tyson and hand it to Hrgovic whose best win is Alfred Molina.

 

Well the top ten ranking has something to do with ability, and most sensible people would pick Hrgovic to beat a few men ranked in the top ten now. It's not only who he's has beaten, but how easily he's beating them.

For example Molina went 9 rounds with Wilder in a title fight and has some moments. He had zero moments vs Hrgovic and was taken out in 3 vs Hrgovic.

I do agree Molina was never top 10, so why was he given a title shot vs Wider?

Second Example. Manasour was a good measuring stick. Washington had Breazeale hurt until he got caught, and drew with Manasour. Hrgovic blew Manasour away.

Both Breazeale and Washington had title shots from Wilder. Washington was even on the cards vs. Wilder after 4 rounds, then got caught in round five. Get the picture, a guy that was even on the cards with Wilder until getting caught drew with Manasour. Hrgovic blew out Manasour.

 

He will be top ten when he starts to fight top ten guys

 

You shut yourself down. Ferguson was Tyson's 17th pro fight. He was proven to be a journeyman losing 18 times, 7 via KO.

I bet you Hrgovic will fight better than this before his 18th pro fight.

Once again, Hrgovic by the opinions of most is being moved quickly. You would have a very hard time showing me a heavyweight who fought and beat better in his first 10 fights. Lets see you can name 5 heavyweights in the past 40 years who fought better in their first ten fights...if you can't your shut down again

You're just worried another Klitschko is on the horizon, a fighter you picked against many times only hilariously to be disappointed the day after the fight happened.

 

Efe Agjaba has since beaten up Mansour in 2 rounds too, does that make him top 10 ranked as well ?

As for Deontay Wilder, he is mostly ranked for his 2015 win over Stiverne for the WBC title and for the 2 wins over Ortiz.
And I don't give Gerald Washington much credit for 'winning rounds' against Wilder when he didn't even make it past the 5th round !!

 

Whyte's boxer don't like em. Hrgovic was riffing about going to the Olympics give me an absolute break. How can I take him serious to be a contender? Forrest is decent. That's why Murat said I'll pass. This will be a good feather in Hrgovic cap if he can stop Forrest

 

Joyce fought Jennings in his 10th fight. Thats a better opponent than Molina who was last seen losing to Breazzele a year ago. Usyk by about the same time won a belt and was defending it against Munchu and Hunter.. Thats what real progress looks like.

No , ill spin that and say you're just desperate to have another EE on top to salivate over. You of all people shouldn't play that game.

I think Hrgovic is a great addition to the the division and have said so many times. I don't knock him for moving along slowly , he has plenty of time.
He did duck Bakole though , but no biggie for now. There's still time for that fight to get made.

 

Hrgovic will almost certainly be a contender when he steps up but at the moment he's not earned a top 10 ranking.

 

Rankings should be viewed as such. The ten best who are active. Since this top ten has a very thin resume in general, most of whom lack wins over another top ten opponent, why shouldn't he be ranked? Think about that one for a moment.

Are you telling me you think Hunter, Kownacki or Rivas, the currently 8, 9 and 10 are Ring Magazine are better? Las Vegas would have Hrgovic as a favorite in these fight. Rivas is behind Hrgovic at Box Rec, Hunter and Kownacki just barely ahead of him but anyone who understands heavyweight boxing knows who the better prospect is. Are you telling Hunter, or Kownacki are better?

I do agree with the professional boxing's ratings should be based on what occurs in the official professional contests. Yes-- Hrgovic is rolling over some decent guys, and the others are fighting marginally better but hardly being as dominant.

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Efe was down and hurt recently. His stock took a hit. Still I'd put him in the top 25 right now. As I said before the amount of people who actually have a win over a top ten opponent in his prime is a thin list. There is not much difference between 20-7, but I can tell you who has more ability rather easily.

Ortiz is old as dirt. In 2015-2016, he was a bad man, This is 2020, and he's 40+

Who did Stiverne beat again to get a #2 rank! That was bunk. Washington did not deserve a title shot, but being 2-2 vs Wilder shows how poor of a boxer Wilder really is, that was part of my point, the other is Massour drew with him. Manasour can punch a bit, a reason Wilder wouldn't pick him for a title shot. He'd rather pick a non puncher on the same level.