So Many Haters, So Few Bullets, PBF P4P Get Over It

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Doggie03, Jul 11, 2007.


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  1. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    The real champ @ 154 was vacant since Winky left.
     
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  2. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    So then how can someone become the real champ at 154?
     
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  3. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Same with the HW division, gotta unify to find a champ. Floyd wasn't the only guy @ 154 with a belt. Not to mention the dubious way DLH got his belt anyway.
     
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  4. PBF P4P #1

    PBF P4P #1 Member Full Member

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    agree...i hope no one is trying to say floyd dominated each class because he left work to do at 140 and we knew he would never at 154 because it was a one fight deal and essientially a WW fighting a LMW
     
    PBF P4P #1, Jul 11, 2007
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  5. Doggie03

    Doggie03 Member Full Member

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    Who said Spadafora beat him bad in the gym? Talk is cheap, anyone can make up rumors.

    At 130, he fought quality. Hernandez, Manfredy(you can't take him out of the picture, he is in the picture, thats just a way of you rationalizing him not fighting quality). Oh, and he did crush Corrales(RIP), and PBF was the under dog.

    135, Castillo, twice. Some felt he may have lost the first one, but some people thought he won convincingly. There are plenty of fights like that. also Jesus Chavez, he was a solid fighter.

    At 140, there may have been some confusion. PBF didn't dodge zoo in no way. The fight just didn't happen, and there were no talks of it. Then he retired after Hatton beat him, which actually made Hatton. And as I recall, it was Hatton who was ducking mayweather. Floyd said he would go to england and fight him, and Hatton still backed off.

    147 - I do agree that he should fight Sugar Shane, and I would love to see it. I don't know why there haven't been any taks about it, but thats not ducking. Floyd is #1, people should be calling him out, not the other way around, and I haven't heard a peep from SSM. But don't forget, if he did beat Shane, then Shane is old and washed up. Who's Margarito again? And fine, Cotto, but he's fighting another quality fighter in Hatton which would bring him more money, which is why he took that fight
     
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  6. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Good point, but it's almost impossible to unify in any division. That being said, Floyd was definately not the man at 154. The guy I was responding to initially said Floyd didn't win a real championsphip at 154. Do you consider his belt at JMW, a legit?
     
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  7. Lance_Uppercut

    Lance_Uppercut ESKIMO Full Member

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    Sure, it was a legit title. I don't like how Moyorga was given a shot vs. Piccarillo to have it. He did nothing to deserve it, aside from getting blasted by Tito and not doing anything at 154 anyway. Nor how DLH too was made #1 for being on a losing streak. The 154 belt is pretty tainted in my opinion. It would be different if someone won the vacant belt and did something with it.
     
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  8. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    extremely good fighter but way overrated
     
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  9. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yah, I looked this up JUST for you. You are calling into question the process of crowing a lineal champion on the site you used as proof that PBF was not lineal. Since you are calling that into question, it only stands to reason that the champions they have listed must be called into question as well right? How can you question their process, but then not question the champions since they would have been put their by what you deem a questionable process?

    http://www.ringtalk.com/index.php?action=fullnews&showcomments=1&id=1110

    http://msn.foxsports.com/boxing/story/6772056

    2 different articles which refer to PBF as the true 135 lineal champion. One of which says he is one of only 9 men to hold the lineal title in 3 weight classes, and dismisses his ABC championships.
     
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