so marquez all of a sudden gained a stone but kept his speed

Does that mean Ward and Judah are on roids too??

If the guy actually managed to change physically in a noticable way,Id be suspicious. But he didnt. He put on a few pounds, and more or less fought to a standstill with a guy hes fought to a standstill twice in the past.

If hes on roids. They must be some weak ass steroids!

He looked more or less the same on the scales as he did against Mayweather when he weighed the same. Little more solid in the shoulders. Thats about it.

He looks exactly like id expect him to look after working 8 weeks with a proper strength and conditioning trainer having never worked with one before.

No more,no less.

There was nothing overly impressive about his physique.
He always came in,in shape. This time he came in,in shape and was a few pounds heavier.

THATS ALL!

 

Wow, what a moron. This thread is ENTIRELY about what can and can't be don with training & conditioning.

You must be a lousy manager if you couldn't even figure that out.

 

It isn't the fact that it can/can't be done, it is how it was done.

The fact that he hired a known PED supplier and fabricator, and now is able to put on 9 lbs of muscle in 10 weeks is very questionable, not to mention the other **** that isn't visably noticable like posible EPO usage and etc.

You work with a steroid cheat and you are a suspect and it would be foolish to think everything is on the up and up than to think something shady is going on. The same thing with Manny and ARiza, especially due to Ariza's relationship with Trevor Graham.

 

Where are you getting 9lbs from?????

He wighed 145 against Katsidis!

He weighed 148 against Mayweather!

 

He was noticeably slower. Plus he's willing to be tested if there's any doubt

 

deal

 

None of those guys have to worry about the pathetic boxing tests catching them unless they are stupid.

 

I hear what youer saying and the posibility does exsist.You stated your case well.:good

 

The first post seemed legit, despite him being a troll in the end.

People say Pacquiao took all this ****, but then don't say Marquez did it. To me, neither do, but like the double standards of those people is ridiculous.

I saw someone say "This fight proves Pacquiao is on PEDs because he didnt take them for this fight, and thats why he lost" lmao.

 

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who said anything about steroids? and what does peds have to do with physique?

do these guys look like bodybuilders to you?

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are we still going over that old bull****?

heredia and conte have a history of beating olympic style drug testing, not usada but the actual olympic drug testing.

plus how do you detect something which is undetectable?

 

read my post again nagger.

 

I was being sarcastic. I guess it was too subtle.

 

JMM looked slow as hell in that fight. The only time he looked pretty quick was that 4 punch body combo. Other then that he looked slow especially his hooks.