So now that it has been confirmed that Margarito used .. Plaster

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  1. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    He even swings his hands around like they are bricks :lol: Imagine your hands were bricks, you would punch exactly like Margarito :deal
     
  2. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You know that's wrong. And for the record (I'm not sure if you were refferring to me), I've never had a bias against Margo, not even now. It's not that nobody cares about Shane not getting hurt, it's just that the Cotto situation is a bigger issue, besides, the perfomance Shane put on left no room to question if Margo would have had a chance even with illegal handwraps. I'm sure you understsand that.
    That's a very convinient simplication, but I can only speak for myself and again say that's wrong and I do care for every fighters safety.
     
  3. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I was speaking in general. And in general, it's correct.

    I'm sure you understand that there's no evidence that Margo did anything wrong against Cotto(or Williams, or Clottey; fighters that no one seems to care if their health was put in danger)

    I'm sure you do.
     
  4. Zaryu

    Zaryu Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You do spend more time in the forum than me, so you might know some poster better than me. Like I said the best I can do is speak for myself.


    Yes, I completely understand, but the thing is even if he did, there is no way to prove it now. But I'm not going around thinking Margo definitely cheated with Cotto, Cintron, Johnson was it? Williams and Clottey. I just think he just might have.


    I'll take this as a complement.
     
  5. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im not going to say this is dumb, because you make SOME valid points here..Naive but valid...For those of us that arent blind saw Margo ran into some flush shots from Cotto and never really took a backwards step. The load wraps of Margo had nothing to do with that, nor did it cause Cotto's lack of defense.
     
  6. Capitan

    Capitan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well now Marco Antonio Barrera has publicly denounced Margie as a disgrace.
    It appears that he is convinced Margie is a sorry cheater.
     
  7. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Who cares what Barrera thinks.
     
  8. NALLEGE

    NALLEGE Loyal Member banned

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    Loaded gloves changes your way of thinking and fighting.
     
  9. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    If you rewatch Cotto/Margarito after knowing what we know about the plaster it looks very suspicious, at least to me. Just listening opens my eyes about the whole thing. I see Cotto landing the bigger, more precise shots, but I hear a distinct thud at times from Margarito's punches and not Cotto's even when Margarito's shots don't seem to have a lot of steam on them. Also, if you watch the fight again, pay attention closely to the face of Cotto between rounds and the way it looks from the 2nd round on, as far as being marked up. I still find it odd that Shane Mosley did nothing like this to Cotto but Margarito could when Shane is a much bigger puncher.

    Before the bell rang for Shane/Margarito, Margarito had a look about him that he was already out of the fight before it began. Don't dimiss this because I've seen a lot of fights where the facial expressions of fighters can tell a lot about the outcome of a fight.

    And one question we have all asked is why the hell would Margarito attempt to use plaster of paris against Shane but not Cotto if he did not need it to beat Cotto?

    Margarito's silence since the announcement of the composition of the substance was revealed is very telling. If you were an innocent fighter but were accused of doing the worst possible thing a boxer can do in boxing, would you have not made an immediate announcement?

    Just look at the odd looking marks to the right of Cotto's left eye and forehead. Sure we can't test what might have been in Margarito's gloves for that fight, but using some simple deduction and logic, the verdict in my opinion, sways to guilt as much as it can without the physical evidence of an illegal substance.

    It's the most disgraceful thing a fighter can do and warrants a life-time ban, and really would be a criminal case as well. I think only a very sick person could defend Margarito.
     
  10. littlefloyd

    littlefloyd Pure boxer Full Member

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    nice post:good
     
  11. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Thanks!
     
  12. NALLEGE

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    A very good opinion on the matter:good
     
  13. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yes for Margo, not for Cotto...I seen nothing different in the way that Margo fought Cotto, it was Cotto that tried to become a master boxer moving and using his jab and tring to fight from range which isnt his game.
     
  14. NALLEGE

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    One punch early in the fight can change your way of thinking if plaster has hardened in the gauze/wrap.
     
  15. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look Im not saying that Margo didnt use the **** in his fight with Cotto, what Im saying is that if Margo did use the stuff all the time, other fighters were able to over came it. cotto couldnt, Cotto could get out of the way of shots and that started at the beginning of the fight...Also Cotto landed many many flush shots on Margo and couldnt get him to stop caming at him...Shane was able to make Margo stop in his tracks and Margo having the hand wraps wouldnt not have changed that.

    In the end what Im really getting at is this, we dont know that Margo used the wraps vs Cotto, and cotto fans are using that as a sure fire excuse as to why he got his ass kick, and Im saying that its not excuse, if Cotto was the beast that his fans were making him out to be then he would have been able to get the job done, the way that Shane did, the way that Williams did. I like Cotto, but he is soft, and I think that faced with that same thing he would fall apart again.