So, Paul Williams..............

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by jpab19, Feb 20, 2012.


  1. Jonsey

    Jonsey Boxing Junkie banned

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    if you were Golden Boy you would get Canelo in with him while he still has some name left.
     
  2. Vano-Irons

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    I'm going to watch in a minute. But from what i read, he still has a bit to offer, and his stamina and workrate are still pretty good.

    He does get hit too much, but that is why I am a fan.

    For what its worth, I think he knocks Kirkland out, and beats Delvin and Angulo handily. He'd make Canelo work for every minute as well which would be fun.
     
  3. SportsLeader

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    Yeah, if he started wrapping at any point, it was that then.
     
  4. Flea Man

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    No F'n way, too risky still.
     
  5. Flea Man

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    Or ever on the basis that Canelo just isn't all that :D
     
  6. MagicMan91

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    "we want the big names nahmsayin. Shavvez nahmsayin, abberez nahmsayin, anyone at 154 nahmsayin"

    "What about James Kirkland?"

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    ummmm nahmsayin we gon leave that to Dan & Mr Peterson nahmsayin"
     
  7. I'm not sure where he goes from here to be honest.

    Like Slip said, if he can't be arsed to make the technical adjustments necessary then I can't be bothered with him.

    He's not a relatively young kid like Cleverly, he's had 40 fights and marketed himself as the most feared man in boxing.
     
  8. Joe Walker

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    i hate when he jab he sort of prepares for his 1,1,2 form miles away. he should either box more with outside combinations or step inside and really bully his man. ishida found a nice spot in the mid rounds when williams came in and went to the body he kept throwing 1-2-1-2's to pauls chin which he couldn't get out the way of. i think we might underestimate how good ishida. the kirkland fight might not of been as flukey as we thought it was. it wasn't ishidas power that dropped kirkland it was that he couldn't get out the way of the shots.

    i would still pick ishida over kirkland in decision...or is that too controversial.


    back to williams career and performance. yeah he did what you would do. fighting a guy with not much 1 punch power who likes to stand off and trade. your much bigger lankier rangier and feel you can go the whole distance with a high workrate. it sort of was preset what would happen. a tall fighter vs a taller fighter is to me more unorthodox and awkward than fighting a southpaw.
     
  9. Flea Man

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    You deed it
     
  10. I think Ishida throws really good short punches that have a bit of meat on them. A fighter that can control range ought to handle him easily.

    A man like Williams who uses his natural strengths against himself will definitely get caught with plenty of those.

    I'm not sure I've ever seen a fighter neglect their natural attributes as much as he does. He's tall with long arms - yet his jab is poor, he can't control the distance and his footwork is particularly bad, regularly getting himself caught in no-mans land there to be hit.

    Canelo might have his way with him, but I'd leave it for now. If I had a young southpaw I'd be banging the door down getting Williams' signature on a piece of paper though. Anyone that can throw a half decent left hand should have some success.
     
  11. Flea Man

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    And Moon would seriously injure Mijares.
     
  12. Joe Walker

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    the way he obliterated golden johnson. who even though old,small and underpowered for 147 had a good chin good defence and tough guy to boot, wasn't put away like that ever like that. the first left uppercut had his teeth clenched like a civil war amputee.
     
  13. TFFP

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    Pretty much agree with you jpab. Same old, same old really. Good work-rate, took a few too many given the calibre of opposition. I thought Showtime were overly generous in applauding him for 'cutting down his work-rate' and implying he was picking his spots. Not really, still threw nearly 1k and didn't sit down on enough. But hey, his strengths are also his biggest weaknesses and he'll win some and lose some I guess.
     
  14. SportsLeader

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    Yeah Johnson wasn't an awful fighter. His punch resistance either miraculously dissapeared in the Margarito fight, or Tony was somehow more powerful than expected.

    I wonder what it was? :think:yep
     
  15. markinmidd

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    hes an excting fighter to watch, he makes mistakes, takes chances and can hit.
    and often gets hit to...haha