So, Paul Williams..............

I agree. Chavez Jr isn't capable of icing PW like Sexio as he comes in. I see much machismo in the trenches with PW connecting to have Chavez scampering into retreat with Chavez making PW wobble in return. The fact it's not PWs best weight is a terrific handicap.

 

He'll never be the same after Martinez 2, but I could be wrong. He has talent.

The only guys who came back from crushing early KO probs Duran, Judah, Khan and Ruiz.

Probs more.

 

Probs more? ****ing plenty.

 

I wouldn't really call Duran's early either.

 

Round 2.

 

I think he thinks you mean 'early career' rather than early round as the rest you mentioned were all, pretty much, prospects when they were crushed.

 

Sorry, I was thinking you meant early in terms of their career, not the fight. :good

Aye.

I'm not sure what relevance that has to P-Dubs though, thinking about it. :conf

 

I mean high profile early round KO's are destructive to a fighter's ego, takes a lot to get the head back into check.

 

He did what he had to do, janam'sayin.

Ishida was game though. He tried but just struggled with the work-rate and ****.

 

Good enough to watch, I dont think anybody thought Ishida really stood a chance.

Paul is an ok fighter and will prob win another belt soon enough but he was never P4P material, he was one of the most overhyped boxers on esb for a while.

 

He shut out Winky Wright and was taking scalps over 3 weights whilst being a stylistic nightmare. I would say his hype, pre-Martinez, was completely justified.

 

Its still worth nothing he's only lost (and I'm including Lara here) to tricky southpaws. Quintana on top form was a good mover and had P Will off key in the first fight. Martinez needs no explanation, and the first fight was pretty close. Lara I put in the same boat as Quintana, but better. None of these are obvious, mundane southpaws. They can all be tricky and good movers.

Williams hasn't yet even looked particularly bad against righties before anyone gets too down on him. He wasn't looked particularly great against Cintron but it was early in the bout.

 

People were waiting for years to dismiss him. Probably all Floyd fans :tong

 

I've never liked him. Nothing to do with Floyd.