So Shirley shook his head at the 12.5???????

agree with AJ

if 12.5 million is not enough, AJ said give me $50 million and I will take 50/50....fact is, this aint a 100 million fight so 12.5 million offer is fair.....bum squad needs to stop ducking

 

Agreed, it was a ridiculous lowball offer trying to establish a foothold at the negotiating table. Nobody but the Joshua cheerleaders will criticise Wilder's team for turning it down, but they can be questioned for going quiet and seemingly reneging on Finkel's earlier statement, just as Hearn has drawn plenty of criticism for changing his own valuation of the fight. Finkel believes it's a $100m+ fight and has even stated Joshua is the A-side worth at least 60%. But when Joshua challenges them to back that assertion up with a $60m flat fee the counter offer hasn't come in.

Both sides are guilty of the same thing effectively, Team Joshua are undervaluing the fight at the start of negotiations to get the best deal for him, Team Wilder are overvaluing it in an attempt to do the same. I'm confident a middle ground will be reached though. Either Finkel and Haymon gamble and give Joshua a hefty flat fee in the region of ~$50m or Wilder gets haggled down to a percentage somewhere around 35-40%.

 

Agree about the lowballing from both sides. It's just common business practice.

The problem is that Finkle doesn't realise you can't having it both ways.....

A) "$12.5 is disrespectful for a $100 million fight....we want 40%".

B) "Joshua isn't getting $50,000,000".


You can't claim it is, and then isn't, a $100,000,000 fight just to suit your agenda.

 

If he didn’t want the fight, he wouldn’t put in any offer. There’s nothing stopping Deontay Wilder accepting the offer.

 

Eddie hearn knows what his doing he puts an offer in that he already knows will get knocked back and it's the same trash wilder doesn't want that fight after the Parker fight wilder wants that fight but isn't gonna let eddie hearn make a fool of him by giving him a flat fee he wants a % just like golovkin did

 

If Wilder wants the fight, he can accept the offer. It’s quite simple. Only greed is stopping him.

 

Good call. Hearn trying to pull the same move he did for Frampton.

 

but he knows he can get more money wilder might play the fool but he knows they need him more then he needs them because his getting exposed fight by fight and with the knockouts stopping the casuals will slowly go and then what lol he needs to make as much as he can and everyone knows there's only wilder left until fury is back

 

So you agree, only greed is stopping him.

 

why doesnt finkle make the fight in USA and give joshua 50 million? rest goes to wilder

cuz it aint a 0.1 billion dolla fight

 

yes lol because it's not fear imo there isn't many hw that fear aj now

 

Unless greed is a cover for fear. If he’s that confident, he would take the fight, knock AJ out twice and then be in control of the undisputed title. He can be as greedy as he likes then.

 

because beating the money man doesn't make you the money man for example golovkin beat canelo and also wilder has seen the cards aj gets it's just as bad as canelo cards so he can't win points plus aj has his refs

 

There's a big difference between "flat fee" and "percentage"
It's perfectly acceptable that Wilder deserves a far smaller percentage
than Joshua, even his team realizes that. The flat fee that Hearn threw
out is a red herring.

Especially with the magnitude of this fight, Joshua is going to get the lion's
share, that's a given. But to make a flat offer that effectively amounts to
a lower percentage of what Parker got (and Hearn is a genius, I'm
sure he already knows how much this fight will likely generate),
is ridiculous and Hearn knows that. People look at the large numbers and criticize
Wilder saying "this is ______ more than he's ever made, he should just take it and
shut up". As if he deserves no profit in the upside potential for the matchup when
he's an integral part to the upside potential. That is ridiculous.

I'm certain if they told Wilder he'd get a $12 million cut from a 60-40 or even 65-35 split
his team would've already accepted it. That's respectable and expected. But to tell
someone to take what effectively is a smaller percentage of the purse than the previous opponent did
in a fight that is set to generate far more money.......no handler in their right mind
is gonna take that. Not one that is looking out for their fighter's best interest anyway. These people saying otherwise, I surely hope they don't ever handle anyone's careers or any negotiations at all.

Disclaimer: I'm a senior claims adjuster so pretty much what I do all
day is negotiate settlements with attorneys and contractors.

 

Offer Wilder a take it or leave it flat fee of $16 Million which is between 8 to 10 times more than Wilders best ever pay day and is more than reflective of his status and pulling power.

If he turns that down then we have the answer as to whether he really wants to fight Joshua. If there’s a rematch he could earn a similar amount again dependent upon his performance and the quality of the first fight.

If he does turn it down then if I were Joshua I’d move on and fight Povetkin instead and then see who else is deserving and realistic about their purse share.