I mean being that he is about as smart as one and did not seem very "Vicious" hugging and kissing Mayweather in the middle of a fight then collapsing like one after Floyd chopped him down like a regular Paul Bunyan.. Yup I think Victor "The Tree" Ortiz sounds just about right.. Don't you? Imagine Roberto Duran, Chavez, Hagler, Hearns, Tyson any REALLY VICIOUS fighters hugging and kissing after a head butt :-(
