So the Andre Ward CANT hurt Mikkel Kessler

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  1. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Lets see, I think we can rank that along with, Floyd Mayweather cant hurt Ricky Hatton. Bernard Hopkins cant hurt Kelly Pavlik. And Andre Dirrell cant hurt Carl Froch. Hell, Joe Calzaghe cant hurt Jeff Lacy.


    Isnt it funny that whenever pure boxers go up against so-called knock out artists, its always the opinion of this forum that the pure boxers cant hurt their opponents? Where does insanity come from? Does it ever register that a fighter doesnt have to have abnormal power to hurt their opponent, that timing, accuracy and accumulation of punches goes along way. :huh


    Cant wait to see how much SOG doesnt hurt Kessler on the 21st.
     
  2. doubleplaidinum

    doubleplaidinum Maravilla Full Member

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    :lol:
     
  3. T-smooth

    T-smooth Member Full Member

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    people hype kessler up too much especially when we havent really seen kessler get hit by a good punch. Calz didnt have no power but he hurt kessler really bad to the body in the 8th but the ref gave kessler extra time to recover. Ward will deffinately hit Kessler harder then Calz so lets see if Kessler can take a punch to the body or head for that matter
     
  4. Danny_Rand

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    Problem is, Kessler hasnt fought anyone but Calzaghe. So how do we know what kind of punches he can take. Basically a 2 year German bum fighting tour, who knows what this guy has, or given the fact that his competition was light before, if he ever had it
     
  5. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Uh, Kessler is the pure boxer in this match. He also happens to have more power. That doesn't make him the "puncher" here. He will be the one timing and hurting Ward with his accuracy.
     
  6. Tricks77

    Tricks77 Sergio By God Martinez Full Member

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    I wouldn't go so far as to say Kessler's competition was light. Granted his first 30 or so fights were soft, but in his last 4 fights prior to Calzaghe he dominated toughman Anthony Mundine; KO'd Eric Lucas who, while faded, did beat Sheika while he was still relevant; Kessler then destroyed Marcus Beyer; and gave then-undefeated Librado Andrade a violent beating over 12 rounds.

    His resume isn't massive, by any stretch of the imagination, but I wouldn't sell him short. Kessler is an extremely solid fighter.
     
  7. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Ward is a much more versatile fighter then Kessler. Once Calzaghe took Kesslers jab away he turned into a one dimensional slugger. Ward has shown he can fight Orthodox, Southpaw, jab on the move, or stand in the pocket and trade. Me thinks Wards speed, accuracy, and movement, will once again bring back memories of a evening in Wales for Mikkel Kessler, and he once again will be swinging for the fences.
     
  8. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    It is a fact that Ward landed flush on Miranda all night, but Miranda still finished on his feet.

    It is also a fact that when Pavlik and Abraham landed flush on Miranda they stopped him.

    In any world where 2 + 2 = 4, it is a fact that Ward does not hit as hard as a top middleweight.

    It is fact that against a top SMW, who has been fighting SMW's for years, that lack of power is a serious problem.
     
  9. TonyPeri

    TonyPeri Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
  10. waldoesj

    waldoesj Active Member Full Member

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    have you seen the Andrade fight?
     
  11. aliwasthegreatest

    aliwasthegreatest Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He hits hard enough to get attention, but is no kind of knock out artist. Anyone can hurt anyone in boxing. Just has to be the right punch at the right angle on the right spot.
     
  12. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    Don't go into hiding when Kessler DOES NOT get hurt by Ward, and when Kessler DOES KO Ward.
     
  13. Danny_Rand

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    Miranda was in brutal wars with Pavlik and Abraham and took huge punches from both of them. This isnt some glass jawed joke here. We have no idea if Kessler has the chin of Miranda, he hasnt fought anyone with power the likes of Pavlik or Abraham. He got hurt by a body shot by Calslap. If he can get hurt by a guy who does punch with his fist facing forward, he can get hurt by Ward who is not a soft puncher by an stretch of the imagination.

    It took Kelly Pavlik bomb after bomb to put down Miranda. Hell it took Abraham 2 fights before he was able to finally get Miranda. It says nothing about Kesslers ability to take a punch, or Wards ability to give one. Mayweather UD'd Castillo twice, Hatton finished him in 4. Ali KO'd Foreman, yet was in 3 wars with Frazier. Means nothing.

    You are slow on the uptake I see. No wonder your predictions always suck dick.


    Calzaghe's lack of power did not hurt him in his supermiddleweight reign did it? If you believe power is what runs boxing its not. Its skill, accuracy, timing and the ability to catch your opponent slipping. Ward's versatility allows him to do all of the above. And nothing has proven to show that Kessler is the iron man you think he is. Again be prepared to eat crow on the 21st, you'll be used to it by now.
     
  14. Jeff M

    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    If you're asking Danny_Rand, I highly doubt it. He should watch it and some others.
     
  15. Danny_Rand

    Danny_Rand Slick N Quick Full Member

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    Exactly. Its about timing and accuracy. If it wasnt about timing and accuracy, Kelly Pavlik wouldnt have got wobbled by a 50 year old benard hopkins who hadnt stopped anyone since Bush's 1st term.