So the JoyBoys say Cotto hasn't done anything at 147lbs?

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  1. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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  2. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Oscar de la Hoya. Oscar at 154 is a harder fight for Mayweather then Cotto at 147. Cotto vs De La Hoya is a close fight with no clear cut winner. Cotto at 147 struggled with a 36 year old Mosley, a Floyd Mayweather in his prime is faster then Mosley and a better defender. Cotto struggles with defense and wont be able to outbox Mayweather.

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    Please dont compare Baldomir to a reality tv show contestant. Baldomir hadnt lost a fight in 8 years, beat Judah, who beat Spinx, who beat Forrest, who beat Mosley. He beat both Judah and Baldomir, basically the guy who beat the guy who beat the guy and so on. This is what we mean by lineal champ. It aint something someone ****ing made up, it has substance. Its alot better then winning vacated titles like Cotto.

    The only great fighter on that list is Mosley, even past his prime. The rest are good to terrible. Gomez and Urkal being terrible. Judah probably beats Quintana. And Margarito is massively overrated.
     
  3. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Who the **** says that Cotto hasn't done anything at 147? :huh

    Quote a couple of cases. If there aren't any, this thread is garbage.
     
  4. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Oh FFS At this point in DLH career how can you honestly say that it would be a better or easier win than fighting Cotto? You're in ****ing denial kid. Did I say that Cotto could beat Floyd so what the **** does it matter, does that have any relevency to making the match?


    Cotto would beat Baldomir's slow ass across the god damn ring....next.


    What opponent relevant to the 147lb division has Mayweather beaten? Zab Judah thats it. Are you saying that the quality of opposition that Floyd has faced ever since he left 135lbs is amazingly superior to what Cotto has faced in his career? Omg you're just terrible.

    VERY SAD!!!
     
  5. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Read the god damn forum then if not stfu because I'm tired of trolls.
     
  6. BENNY BLANCO

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    not at this stage of his career where in his last two fights he went a full 24 rounds with two bums. Quintana beats him easy. oh btw Carlos Quintana>Carlos Baldimir:deal
     
  7. Ramshall1

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    Margarito overrated? Not by Fraud himself . . . or else he wouldnt have clearly ducked him.
     
  8. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Styles make fights. De La Hoya vs Cotto would be a good close matchup. See Cotto vs Mosley. I said De La Hoya at 154, not De La Hoya at 147. At 147 Mayweather blows both there asses out the water.


    What does this have to do with you comparing an accomplished fighter like Baldomir who even took Vernon Forrest to 12 rounds at 154, hadnt lost in 8 years, to Gomez, a reality tv contestant who has 3 losses in 12 fights?


    No its about equal. The only guy Cotto has over Mayweather currently at 147 is Quintana who beat an overrated Williams. If you compare their resumes since 140 its about equal. Zab Judah, Baldomir, Hatton, De La Hoya is easily just as impressive if not moreso then Quintana, Urkal, Judah and Mosley.
     
  9. G_RapPBF

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    Judah vs Quintana would be a good matchup. I dont see how you can say it will be easy. Because Quintana beat an overrated lank like Williams? Who beat an overrated pressure fighter like Margarito? Santos nuff said.
     
  10. ganchozurdo

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    Go and watch some volleyball or some other sport like that b/c you saying that oscar is a harder fight for floyd than cootto makes you look like An idiot who doesnt know **** about boxing
     
  11. BENNY BLANCO

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    I stated my reason why which is that zab could'nt even put away two journeyman which is what they both were not even gatekeepers.
     
  12. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Who gives a ****?


    Floyd beat Baldomir over 2 years ago and hasn't fought anyone else thats currently ranked top 10 besides Judah, Yet he is "the man" at 147lbs? Baldomir is retired who gives a **** about it he hasn't defended his belt against a single 147lb opponent!




    "Cotto hasn't done ****" ......But its about equal? :lol:
     
  13. G_RapPBF

    G_RapPBF Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry, if Cotto would have dominated his fight against Mosley then I would be inclined to agree. But he barely edged out a victory. Oscar at 154 is still fast, still powerful, and his ability to pick of Floyd shots with his gloves was huge, the only thing he lacks is stamina. Cotto doesnt impress me, he lacks too much defense for a counterpuncher like Floyd.
     
  14. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oscar is a harder matchup for Floyd because of his size. In his current state, he's not a better fighter than Cotto. You've also got a hard sell convincing me Cotto "struggled" with Shane. I'd be more willing to concede he "struggled" with Zab, but then so did Floyd for about the same amount of ring time.

    Baldomir isn't a joke, and he's certainly a better caliber of fighter than Gomez by far. That doesn't mean he wasn't one of the weakest lineal champs at 147 in decades. The lineal title lost a whole lot of luster when fragile Zab couldn't handle his business in NYC. Therefore, it's a much weaker defense for Floyd's choice of opponents than it would have been if he'd taken it off of Zab the way it was supposed to happen.

    I see the "Margo is overrated" chants are starting well in advance of July. Can't have Cotto gaining any credit for beating the guy Floyd couldn't fit into his busy schedule for $8 million.
     
  15. Ramshall1

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    bingo. :deal

    and if AM wins. . . the nut-jokys will simply say "Cotto was overated all along"