So the Nevada Commission is hearing out the random blood tests....

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  1. bigeddie27

    bigeddie27 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Lets forget about mayweather/pacman for now. At the site about news for fights, it appears that the nevada state athletic commission is reviewing its own testing procedures, and had a meeting with the anti-doping guy responsible for mayweather's blood tests. If a test works and is better, I say why not? And I am from the camp that thinks PED's should be legal and regulated (cause lets get real, i bet 90% of fighters use the **** anyways). Maybe you guys should hear what mayweather is talking about, rather than who is saying it.
     
  2. HMSTempleGarden

    HMSTempleGarden Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    you think PED's should be made legal?
     
  3. Trendkiller

    Trendkiller 420 Full Member

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    :huh nonsensical.
     
  4. welb

    welb Active Member Full Member

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    If the commissions institute the tests that's fine. Testing overall would be good for the sport even though Floyd's motivation for wanting the tests is his fear of Manny.
     
  5. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    You want to legalize PED's? :huh

    And suggesting 90% of fighters cheat in boxing, is a very bold statement.

    Anyways, I'm all for random drug testing. There is absolutely nothing wrong in this procedure, and if the Nevada Commission choose to implement this, then I am all for it.

    However the only thing I'm oppose to, is Mayweather's approach in doing this, and his real reasons for bringing this issue up. Simply put, it's a cowards move.
     
  6. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm for drug testing in pro boxing but I think the commissions can't afford a thorough Olympic style drug testing at this time. Imagine $20,000 per boxer per fight for drug testing expenses alone!!! This amount is higher compared to what most undercard boxers earned in one fight!!!

    Another problem is the implementation. Will it be for all boxers in all weight divisions? Will all countries implement the same standard of drug/blood testing? To me these are very difficult questions for boxing commissions to tackle.

    USADA/WADA is smiling if they can get pro boxing under its wings. It's big money involved and it's big business.

    IMO, boxing commissions should go for 3rd party drug testing companies that cost less and do a not too stringent drug/blood testings for all boxers in the world. ;)
     
  7. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Excellent points
     
  8. Samski313

    Samski313 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pacquiao is about to be forced to get in the ring and fight and quit crying about a drug test like a 3yr old lil girl getting her first shots. I am a Pacquaio fan by the way.
     
  9. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    :huh # 1

    1st party - commission

    2nd party - boxers

    3rd party - USADA

    :huh #2

    "not too stringent drug/blood testings"

    ...like...what they already do?
     
  10. NeckBreaknAiken

    NeckBreaknAiken Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fytelod.. Please stop.


    The high costs of the tests are because they aren't given so often. You increase the frequency of the procedure, and they will undoubtedly begin to cost a lot less. Almost like mass production. It's just the nature of economics.


    Also, I think a lot of you are missing 90% what bigeddie is talking about, focusing on his stance of PED's. His last statement inhis post says it all:


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  11. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That's right and USADA/WADA is not the only 3rd party drug testing company out there. I think other companies tested NFL players and NBA players.

    The next drug/blood testing protocols could be more stringent than what they're doing now but not that stringent as Olympic style drug testing. Of course it's a step better than the current one.
     
  12. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah the expense will become lower once it will be implemented to all boxers. So maybe the $20,000 per boxer per fight expense will go down to about $10,000 which is still very costly for the boxing commissions to implement.

    Do you think it's feasible for implementation by all boxing commissions in all countries that do boxing business?
     
  13. timmyjames

    timmyjames PTurd curb stomper Full Member

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    i don't see why a different third party org wouldn't be ok, but, you do realize, USADA is non=profit don't you?
     
  14. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    Good. Maybe everyone will stfu about drug testing now.

    Imagine if we started debating about boxers based on their talents and skills.

    **** drug testing and ppv numbers.
     
  15. fytelod

    fytelod Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    SOURCE

    NSAC: Urine test only for Manny-Floyd fight

    "Drug-testing procedures for a potential super fight between Manny Pacquiao and Floyd Mayweather Jr., if held in Las Vegas, will be limited to urine testing, as far as the Nevada State Athletic Commission (NSAC) is concerned. The NSAC upheld on Wednesday (Thursday in Manila) its drug-testing procedure on boxers as topnotch doctors Robert Voy and David Watson told the commission that urine samples are sufficient in catching drug-cheats.

    Fight scribe Mike Marley wrote that Voy, a long-time Olympic boxing physician, and Watson, a member of the NSAC medical board, were of the belief that random blood testing is not the answer to curbing the use of performance-enhancing drugs (PEDs). The two were involved in NSAC talks to review its current drug testing procedures for boxing, and assess whether or not a more stringent policy should be implemented. It goes beyond saying that the talks were most critical to the proposed Pacquiao- Mayweather showdown being eyed for November 13, in which drug-testing procedures are a main point of negotiations. Voy, formerly the chief medical officer of the US Olympic Committee, said blood-testing in boxing is "unreliable and impractical" and even "dangerous" and that urine testing should be done "closer to the event, the better."

    Watson echoed the same sentiment. "I believe that urine is the best substance to test. I agree with Dr. Voy that urine (random testing) is what we should require and that blood is not necessary. I agree with Dr. Voy that there are theoretical and real risks to blood testing one of which is a (boxer getting) a hematoma on the elbow or a clot from missing a vein. There are also HIV and Hepatitis C risks," said Watson.

    The Pacquiao-Mayweather bout had originally been penciled for March 13 but a feud in drug-testing procedure sent negotiations down the drain. Mayweather demanded for Olympic-style random blood and urine drug testing to be conducted on both fighters."