So the WBC does not accept David Haye

Does Julio Cesar Chavez have an overweight son?

 

To be fair. Haye is not in their top 10 rankings. I think that's more of the case rather than what happened with Haye v Chisora.

Haye should fight a title eliminator (minimum).

 

He's not gonna come out of retirement to fight an eliminator on the off-chance he MAY get a fight against Vitali, and I don't blame him. He could come out of retirement and fight someone only for Boente to tell him to go **** himself and Haye looks like a money-grabbing ****. The only 'eliminator' I would accept is Haye-Chisora but Haye is simply different class to Del-Boy. Haye-Vitali has to be better than the **** that both Klits have been serving up the past 2 years; blown up Cruisers, novices and fighters coming off losses.

 

you mean like Haye is if he fights Vitali in the summer?:yep

 

Theres no shame in coming off a loss against the No 1 in the division, but fighting a novice coming off losses against Fury and Hellenius? Embarassing atsch

 

Haye is still the biggest threat to either Klit. I'd give him more of a chance against Vitali than against Wlad. It doesn't take a genius to see that Vitali has slowed and is having trouble putting people away, people he'd have blown away if he were in his prime.

If he fought Vitali next, i'd say its 70/30 in favor of Vitali. It's a bigger chance than I'd give absolutely anybody else and I think Haye warrants it.

Question is, exactly how valuable is a win over Vitali? The guy has to age at some point, it's widely considered that he's past his prime and if he just carries on fighting then he will eventually lose.

I know its a bold statement but it's the biggest HW fight that can be made right now, simple as...

 

If Haye wants the WBC to sanction a fight with Vitali, first he needs to fight and defeat one of the WBC top 15 heavyweights.

 

I call bull**** to this:deal

It is kinda a wierd move considering thats the biggest money fight for that title right now. When you see something like this that seems like an outlier you need to ask yourself cui bono. Maybe JS wants a bigger cut from Haye/Vitali or maybe Suliman is trying to position someone else for a title shot. I really have no idea. All I know is that this isn`t a typical move. From the outside looking in it doesn`t make bussiness sense. And the WBC is the most corrupt organization in boxing.

 

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Got to say I agree with you... Although Vitali has slowed some, I'd like to have seen him have a complete fight vs. Chisora with a healthy left shoulder. Then those 70/30 %'s would likely go way back down. I honestly have the odd's some what lower.

That being said, the way Haye fights and the low amount of punches he throws, while compared to Vitali's output, I'd all but rule out a Haye UD, and the other option; a KO win over Vitali, is always extremely unlikely

 

Its hilarious people still think Haye is a threat to anyone in the heavyweight division. Can you list all the top 10 heavyweights he's beaten? As much as I like Sugar Valuev, beating a guy who went life and death with Holyfield is not a good win.

 

like someone said. Haye should fight a title eliminator. If he really wants it he should earn it. The way he performed with Vlad shows he does not deserve a fight with Vitali just because he wants it. He is good enough to win an eliminator.

 

WBC rankings:

Chris Arreola (US) USNBC

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Denis Boytsov (Russia)

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Alexander Dimitrenko (Germany)

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Bermane Stiverne (Canada) SILVER

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Johnathon Banks (US) NABF

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Chauncy Welliver (US) AMERICA/ABCO

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Tyson Fury (GB) BBB C / COMM

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Mariusz Wach (Poland) INTL

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Luis Ortiz (Cuba) LATINO/FECARBOX

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Tomasz Adamek (Poland)

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Franklin Lawrence (US)

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Odlanier Solis (Cuba)

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Manuel Charr (Syria) SILVER INTL

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Andrew Wawrzyk (Poland) BALTIC

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David Rodriguez (US) FECOMBOX

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I want this fight to happen. Haye has a legit chance at beating an old Vitali.