So This is the Evolution of Boxing

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Imperial1, May 18, 2012.


  1. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    i tend to agree, steroids are widesspread in all sports at all different age levels

    though ive never heard or seen anything on kids under highschool age taking
     
  2. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    IMO let everyone use it and then basically it evens the playing field again where the most talented or best scientists can stay on top.

    It comes back to skills one way or the other. Right now the best "criminal" gets the advantage. Decriminalize it and problem solved.
     
  3. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    i think most athletes take

    though not all take the same amount or for the same purpose

    if they can find ways to make them so that they arent dangerous than i dont see why not

    though as a former athlete i dont like the idea of this, from a sportsmanship point of view it kills the integrity
     
  4. RightCross

    RightCross Grandmaster of Boxing Full Member

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    Understand your sentiment, but the reality is those benefitting are the people circumventing the "testing". How to deal with that? catch only the dumb few that cant circumvent testing? I beleive it is too widespread and the pressure to perform too great.
     
  5. KO KIDD

    KO KIDD Loyal Member Full Member

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    i agree, eventually legal supplements will be as powerful as steroids as science improves

    people will be able to make themselves super human eventually with legal stuff i imagine
     
  6. king khan

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    Agree with everything exept same-day weigh-ins. . They should monitor their weights more closely leading up to the fight. . I think some organizations already require them to be within a certain % over a time frame. . . That's good. .

    If you implement same day weigh-in, we're really putting the health of our boxers at stake. . They will all still try to squeeze down as low as possible, and if they don't rehydrate properly, you're EXPONENTIALLY more at risk for brain damage. . .

    ANALOGY: Your brain has fluids as a protective "cushion" between the skull. . . When you drain your body, those fluids surrounding your brain are dried out too. . Now, picture your brain as an egg. . And put that egg in an empty glass and shake it up (dehydrated brain). . Then put it in a glass of water and shake it around (fully hydrated brain). . .
     
  7. Prince.

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    Manny likes to drain his opponents....
     
  8. FloydPatterson

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    Oscar and Floyd should invest in starting a universal commision.
     
  9. Dorfmeister

    Dorfmeister Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I vehemently disagree with Imperial on some points and I will give examples b'cause that is the scientific way to prove something which one thinks it's wrong, give an example of how wrongly it is applied:

    Same day weigh ins - they can hardly make it 24 hours in pounds and they r supposed to go in there dehydrated and weak, suppose that would happen in the Pacquiao Hoya fight and that would not last four rounds...

    Go back to the original 8 divisions - There are many, just too many casrs where a fighter in a certain weight class is absolutely given no credit for fighting guys who are 6 pounds less, example that comes up to my mind - all the trash talking that you put in threads and posts against Bernard for calling out junior middleweights such as Tito, DLH, Brown, Wright and so on. Even Larry tried to spoiled bernard's night against hakkar who was the number one contender for calling DLH, Vargas and Winky. Not to mention that Mayweather is also critisized for fighting guys like Hatton, and JMM.

    Going forward is not strickter drug testing like you are about to train yourself all day long for 6 to 8 weeks and somebody comes knocking on your door to take blood from you like they did it to Mosley when he was to face Floyd...
     
  10. difO

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    so much money, so all the roid geniuses head to boxing.
     
  11. Rock0052

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    Let's not act like this is a new thing....steroid use was becoming mainstream in the Olympics and in the NFL by the 1960's. Even if we give boxing the benefit of the doubt, there's no question in my mind that guys from the 70's on were juicing up. Particularly because there just wasn't the negative stigma attached to steroids then as there is today and testing was literally non-existant.

    By the time the 80's and 90's hit, they were firmly entrenched in the sport. The 90's was a golden age of juiced up fighters.

    Modern day training = the best PED regimen money can buy.
     
  12. Cableaddict

    Cableaddict Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well, that itself would require a same-day weigh in.
     
  13. Imperial1

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    The lack of discipline is the reason why you can have so many weight classes .Its more of a reward for being lazy ..I mean look at the Rios incident recently ..And with regards to the drug testing I mean have the same testing across the board ..I mean Chavez Jr just denied a post fight drug test in Texas ,I mean really ?

    And yes guys like Hopkins and Floyd should get critisized for fighting smaller guys at higher weights but all the blame shouldn't fall on them ..Look at the Pacquio Margacheto fight ,that was actually at a cathweight for a jr middleweight title ..It can go both ways ..