So Tyson has always had trouble with big fighters?

yeah its a bit odd that people run this he had trouble with tall guys line - he was a short heavyweight himself so most people were gunna be taller than him and he still kicked ass in those early years

 

yeah and that's pretty normal to understand why.

 

Tyson was awesome. It was the lack of motivation and his time in prison that ruined him. In his prime I would favour him to beat any heavyweight.

 

I'm a big Tyson fan. I've read a lot of about him and watched most of his fights.

The truth is:

1. Mike is about 5'10 in person, and my coach has met him several times and claims he's only 5'9. Everyone was taller than Tyson.

2. Tyson's best weapon was his ability to slip punches, get inside and land explosive body/head combos the other guy didn't see coming. Perfect example, Frank Bruno (who I think is 6'2?). Watch the second fight and you will see what I mean.

3. Tyson's kryptonite was his self confidence. When he had it going, he was unstoppable. When he didn't feel confident, he psyched himself out and got into deep water. Perfect example, Lennox vs. a faded Tyson. Mike didn't have the quickness of his youth to get inside past the jab. He lost confidence, psyched himself out and gave up serious efforts after a few rounds.

4. Watching Tyson was like watching Ali or Mayweather. Everyone expected the fights to be so one sided that if it was ever competitive, then suddenly "he was in trouble". Total bull****.

 

For all the talk of Holyfield being the "poor widdle baby" of the HW division, always having to go up against all these Goliaths with his little slingshot and doing so well to have success against them (and Holyfield was a medium/big HW!! :? more on that here: http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=241945) - Tyson was the real giant-killer. :good

 

He had trouble with 6'2'' fighters that had iron jaws and were named Holyfield.

 

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Couldn't have put it better myself...great points..all true. Slight variance on the 3rd point for me....I don't think he was the most confident guy from the time he left Rooney to Join Snowell Giachetti and those bums Holloway and Horne. He certainly didn't have much after douglas....and post prison, his confidence was gone to a certain degree.

What hurt Tyson the most was UNDOUBTEDLY prison and not being able to train in the ways he was ac"cus"tomed to! lol Appologies for the pun!

He lost a great deal of muscle mass and just wasn't the same physical specimen. Can you see Holyfield pushing and pulling pre-prison Tyson around like a rag doll Like he did in their 2nd fight?? Not a chance!

 

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Tyson didn't always have problems with big fighters; he had problems with big fighters who had talent and skill. Besides, if you go back and read old issues of Ring magazine or KO magazine that were published when Tyson was actually fighting, you will read in those magazines that Tyson was taking advantage of the weakest heavyweight division ever. Also, I have this strange idea that Tyson was steered away from Riddick Bowe by his management.

 

Tyson had trouble with fighters that weren't of scared of him:yep

 

Cus D'amato was a boxing Wizard. He taught Tyson how to fight anyone. And Tyson didn't have to hit you on the chin to do damage. He has great body work too.
Tyson never lost to anyone because they were big. Size doesn't have so much to do with it. It's like that quote "it's not the size of the dog..."

 

I thought I heard Bowe say that he and Tyson never fought because they were both friends and from the same part of Brooklyn,NY.
I could be mistaken but I am fairly certain. Maybe it was a myth.