So UK fans going to PACK 40-50K to see AJ vs Povetkin, when AJ ducked Wilder?! SMH

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  1. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    AJ is clearly the a side I guess you haven’t read my other post but 85-15 isn’t a fair split. Also I’m just point out facts Floyd fought Manny they called him old and gave him **** when Floyd’s older. He fought Shane Mosley they said he’s old washed up when Floyd fought him lol all these guys younger than Wlad, now magically 40 ain’t old hahaha. Get real I give credit where credit is due. What I’m not gonna do is dick ride a guy who fought like he did vs Parker and best Charles Martin for the belt. I mean Wilder ain’t beat **** either. But I do remember fast Eddie signing Ortiz when he was Ajs mando lol. Tyson Fury dethroned NOT AJ that’s just facts you may not like how it was done but Fury schooled a fresher Wlad not comin off a lost. Personally I don’t want Wilder to fight him, it’s more fun watching Eddie justify his ducking and acting like 15 million is fair. Joshua can make as much as he wants at the end of the day Joshua and Wilder need each other just like Floyd and Manny they will forever be linked together get over it.
     
  2. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    The split should be 70/30 AJ gettin the bulk. I’m pretty sure you can still become someone’s mando even if you have a belt. I’m over it honestly I hope it doesn’t happen then I hope both get sparked and maybe the entire sport of boxing can learn a fast hard lesson.... give the people what they want when they want or watch your sport die
     
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  3. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    I think it will happen down the track. I'm not desperate for it to happen now.
    More interested in the upcoming bantamweight tournaments. Check out the participants, they are all world class.
     
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  4. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    That bantam tourney is legit. Honestly I would have loved for the fight to happen in sept but that’s bias purely because I’m in Europe right now. Just watched the World Cup in France this mofos is lit as ****
     
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  5. anjawnaymiz

    anjawnaymiz Can we get Ivan Dychko some momentum Full Member

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    Anyone who believes AJ ducked wilder is a moron!

    Wilder was offered a career high payday and declined

    Parker and povetkin have had no problem manning up

    **** that guy!
     
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  6. smiffyinoz

    smiffyinoz Active Member Full Member

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    As Barry Hearn said last night, the fight isn't worth 100M at this moment in time so the 15M Wilder has been offered is around 25%. He also confirmed the contract is still sitting with Wilder for the April Wembley date.
     
  7. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    McGregor not a reasonable comparison. McGregor had already sold 1.65 mill PPV's with the UFC with the Diaz rematch, Wilder can't even get 1.65 mill people to watch him free on cable let alone pay extra for it.

    Ludicrous way to force the fight. Firstly it's only a big fight because all the belts will be on line, the fact it's Wilder himself is irrelevant it's the belt Joshua wants not another over protected US heavyweight to pad his record with. To get ranked by the WBC he'd have to vacate all his belts which then devalues any fight with Wilder as it wouldn't be for the undisputed title.

    Plus Hearn has tried to push Whyte already as WBC mandatory and all that's done is see the WBC protect their US heavyweight by making Breazeale Mandatory and trying to order Whyte/Ortiz to try and get rid of Whyte. If Joshua did somehow become mandatory I'd fully expect the WBC to prevent a mandatory shot as long as possible, order countless "final" eliminators before Joshua get's a final mandatory shot some time in 2022 after Wilder retires.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    Wow looks like El Chicano lives in Wilder's underpants.
     
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  9. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Wow, nice! They probably celebrate for weeks lol. Well deserved for France.
     
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  10. inner2deepz

    inner2deepz Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Okay why didn’t the fight have a date or place set for sept when AJ. And Hearn said they wanted it?!?! They had no intention of fighting Wilder next simple as that which is fine just be honest. 25% is fair?!? Explain to me why Parker deserved 34%?!? Explain he doesn’t sell more than Wilder and he isn’t more popular. It’s a lowball offer then no self respecting champ would take and he still accepted he has for a date and venue which Hearn already knew because he admitted knowing AJs next fight was in Sept
     
  11. Vykus

    Vykus ɹoolɟ ǝɥʇ ɯoɹɟ ʍǝᴉʌ ǝɥʇ Full Member

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    No. Lets take a look at Joshua's record since his 15th fight.

    Whyte - British and Commonwealth heavyweight title. Current top contender.
    Martin - IBF world champion.
    Breazeale - 1st of 2 fight options Al Haymon had on Joshua.
    Molina - 2nd of 2 fight options Al Haymon had on Joshua.
    Klitschko - ATG, for additional WBA and IBO world titles.
    Takam - Late replacement for #1 contender/mandatory Pulev.
    Parker - WBO world champion.
    Povetkin - Olympic gold medalist, former world champion, #1 contender/Mandatory.

    The idea that Joshua has ducked Ortiz, or anyone, is hilarious. It has probably been near impossible for him to have a stronger resume in fact. Wilder and his fans are pissing in the wind if they think Joshua needs Wilder at all, the man is on track to make more money than Mayweather, and like I said previously, most boxing fans don't even rate Wilder as their number #2 heavyweight. If you had the choice between Ortiz or ATG Klitschko for 2 extra world titles, you would also tell Ortiz to wait till October 2017. It's his own dumb ass fault for giving up his #1 position, signing with Haymon after only being with Matchroom for 5 months, and getting screwed around for peanuts in the US when he was clearly in line to fight Joshua for a retirement paycheck. Offer Wilder a contract getting paid by round to make sure he doesn't roll over. If he doesn't sign, who cares, let him forever be known as the tomato can king.
     
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  12. smiffyinoz

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    Have you had your head buried in the sand? The September and April Wembley agreement has been in place for over a month, hell Wilder even commented on it
     
  13. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    Didn't he also say ideally Matchroom don't want the fight right now and would prefer it to take place in two years?
     
  14. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    El suicidal is guna get a headache shaking it as much as he does. The sooner he accepts Joshua is the divisions A side the sooner he can stop shaking.
     
  15. Ahurath

    Ahurath Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm disappointed that the Wilder Joshua fight didn't happen. But I think both sides are to blame for the fight not happening and I'm at least glad we get this fight. Wilder should take a fight a month later or so for a big showdown late in 2018 or early 2019.