So wait a minute, now you can be a WBA "Super" Champion without unifying a belt?

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I just saw that the WBA now has Arsen Goulamirian as its "Super" Champion. I thought that that the whole point of having a "Super" champion was so that the belt can remained unified while they have a "regular" company champion that defends that belt separately.

    So now they have three champions...and NONE of them are unified.

    It is time to close the book on this organization. From now on, the entire boxing community should decline to purchase fights with WBA "titles" at stake, and should cease speaking of their organization and their "champions" entirely.
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    The whole point of having a super champion is getting money. This allows them to get more money.

    Quite frankly, anyone taking the WBA seriously at this point is a part of the problem, and I include fighters in that.
     
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  3. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem same as the WBC belt is that the WBA belt is a prestigious and somewhat historic belt. Deep down the belts fighters want most is the WBC and WBA.
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's a shame the weight of history holds such sway over that type of money-grubbing, leeching and make-believe in the now.
     
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  5. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Unfortunately it is what it is and I don’t see it changing at all, more is the pity. To many belts out there. Very soon we shall get the WBA Youtubers belt.
     
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  6. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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  7. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Sad but true. We may even get a WBC Eastside boxing belt.
     
  8. sasto

    sasto Well-Known Member Full Member

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    We'll never get it because Canelo's already wearing it.
     
  9. Olu G. Rotimi

    Olu G. Rotimi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I thought Lil G and Loma the Eastside belts.
     
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  10. Rope-a-Dope

    Rope-a-Dope Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The whole super champion, regular champion, interim champion nonsense is pretty much my number one complaint about boxing currently. Why not just make everyone a champion while they're at it...it's already completely devalued.
     
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  11. Surrix

    Surrix Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Looks that they does have multiple belts: at least these belts: super. regular. internim. inter continental. maybe more.
    champ in recess title.
     
  12. Holler

    Holler Doesn't appear to be a paid matchroom PR shill Full Member

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    In that thread I half jokingly suggested we vote on one champ per weight division and make them the recognised ESB holder. Whether it's viable or not I'm not sure, but the current setup with 4 alphabet bodies, plus the IBO, then Ring, Boxrec, Lineal etc is an utter offence to the meaning of the word 'World'.

    Boxing needs The Highlander to start appearing when these bogus belts appear, waving a big sword and menacingly declaring 'there can be only one'
     
  13. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Does it really make a difference? It’s not affecting boxing negatively. Nobody cares about champions, they care about the fighters.

    Only 2-4 titles really matter and hold weight:
    - Pound 4 Pound ranking - it’s by no accident that the top p4p fighters garner the most attention, they’re the best and with that come attention.

    - Undisputed/Unified.

    - Lineal/Ring champ - this actually has a case for being the best fighter in the division.

    I don’t think anyone ever said to themselves “I will watch a fight tonight because an abc champion is fighting”. It literally means nothing.

    It only means something when it’s a unification bout, in which case, it’s actually good for the sport that unifications happen.
     
  14. Reg

    Reg Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If there were only one or two belts in boxing then it would be much harder to dodge mandatories. Also, Mandatories would actually be meaningful fights. In an era without so many belts we wouldn't see situations like Spence/Crawford not fighting, May/Pac happening 5 years too late, or GGG/Canelo happening 2 years late. We would have actually seen Wilder vs AJ.
     
  15. jaytxxl

    jaytxxl Active Member Full Member

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    Even worse is them allowing Nery vs Figueroa to be advertised as an unification fight when Figueroa is just the regular champion. This is utter nonsense when considering the Super champion is already unified with the IBF.
     
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