so wait, Roy Jones got popped for steroids?

How do you know what tests weren't conducted Cormonger? What have I ducked and dodged? atsch Ripped Fuel, like nasal decongestants is most likely an excuse, Jones had a chance to submit to a follow up test and clear his name, he didn't despite running the risk of his bout being ruled a no contest. You've provided no credible sources, and have continued to repeat the same rubbish about Ripped Fuel. You're an embarrassment :deal

Steroids can aid with technique, if you can train harder and for longer, then of course your technique will be better. Timing and knowing are important, however if you have greater speed, strength and stamina then you can exercise everything to a greater degree of effectiveness.

Both were cheating, however you'd have to be pretty naive to think that this was the first time Jones ever used steroids. Whilst there's no concrete evidence, at least it casts a huge cloud of suspicion over anything he achieved up to the Richard Hall fight, when he was caught. Of course steroids can have a big effect in boxing, hence why they're banned and fighters are now demanding OSDT for their fights.

 

Absolutely agree with all of that. I've just stated that steroids (or whatever) do not make a champion, and I wholeheartedly stand by that. It can never replace skill and will.

But if they confer no advantage, why have so many fighters been caught using them? Why use something if it's not working? If a fighter can gain even a 1% performance benefit from 'supplements', then it's still an advantage.

 

Urine. Steroids are screened in Urine. But that's not a method.
We don't know what method they used to determine steroid abuse. From the sources I have read concerning this it has been indicated to have been simple measuring of testosterone levels (which is part of any screen for abuse) but that seems very unlikely because there is no good threshold amount that can reliably be used. And so it is simply not used except as an indicator for suspicion.
Whoever is the source for this may have just not have understood what he was reading or heard, or he might have picked some value that he thought he understood. However, if it was any sort of competent lab performing the testing they screened other parameters, too. This seems very likely since they explicitly say he got caught for steroid abuse and because there are reliable things to measure, like testosterone/epitestosterone ratios, that is (or at least was, not sure on the current rules tbh) grounds for a doping ban.

If the source that cited 6 times the normal level (presuming normal actually means the upper limit for being called normal) of testosterone is correct that amounts to 1200ng/ml in urine. If so it's probably unlikely that it was ripped fuel since it's unlikely that andro could give someone such high amounts of testosterone.

On the other hand the sources are not clear on anything really so deducing something from the info I've seen is not safe.
WHat we can be certain about is that he got caught.