so wait, Roy Jones got popped for steroids?

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  1. king khan

    king khan Boxing Junkie banned

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    And I agree, Manny did come up with BS excuses. . . ALthough there is a HUGE difference between getting tatted up with the "ink needles" and getting a needle actually stuck in your vein to withdraw blood. . . I don't mind getting tattoos, but I am petrified of getting stuck with needles to have blood drawn, IV's, etc. . .

    I think it was just a "power/control" issue (which BOTH SIDES have issues with for making this fight), and Manny felt insulted by being accused, so he felt like he wasn't going to bow down to anything Floyd demanded. . . . ALthough he did agree to Floyd's protocol, or the cutoff date, during the second negotiation period. . ANd then, he agreed to full testing with no cutoffs thereafter (been his stance on that for like the past year or so). . .
     
  2. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    Of course there should be, Manny refused the additional drugs testing, that Mayweather has used in all his recent fights. I can understand negotiations breaking down because of financial disputes, but why would Manny reject OSDT?


    I've never labelled Pacquiao a steroids cheat, I've just stated that it's suspicious that he rejected the OSDT at first. With Mayweather, there's nothing at all to suggest it, and the fact that he's submitted to OSDT in all his recent fights suggests that he takes a strong stance against steroids cheating. I think it makes it less likely, if he benefited from using steroids, why wouldn't he continue to? Why would he then start demanding OSDT? Has there been any difference in his performance since demanding OSDT?

    It's fantastic that there is additional testing in the sport. If Roy Jones hadn't gotten caught, he may well have continued abusing, and gotten wins over Antonio Tarver and Glen Johnson, that he didn't deserve.
     
  3. Cormega

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    Cus also didn't let his fighters touch weights for the most part, and Mike was still built like a brick shithouse back when Cus was around. From what I've seen/read, Mike didn't start lifting weights until after he came out of prison, which, along with his age, would account for his body taking on "a whole different look" (more like slightly bigger and more ripped) in the mid to late '90s.

    The bottom line is there's absolutely no evidence of Mike ever using steroids. Also, :lol: at you suggesting that the ear biting incident was a case of "roid rage", which only goes to show how ignorant you are on this subject.
     
  4. Whipdatass

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    He doesn't own anyone, lmao.
     
  5. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    We've already been over the fact that there's a hefty dose of bull**** in that recycled post, but I think it's pretty clear that Roy did have elevated testosterone levels, and those could very well have come from the ripped fuel with andro that was available over the counter back then.
     
  6. Rico Spadafora

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    Jones is a Glass Jawed convicted drug cheat.
     
  7. Whipdatass

    Whipdatass Boxing Junkie banned

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    Jones fans defend Roy when his critics say that Roy used PEDS his entire career. You need proof for that. Yeah, he failed and passed testing after the Hall fight. Show proof of Jones cheating his entire career and I'll join Jones's critics in discrediting Jones's whole career.
     
  8. knockout artist

    knockout artist Boxing Addict banned

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    :patsch


    What evidence is there that Andro can make you test postive for 6x the legal limit for an anabolic steroid?



    -Ripped Fuel is a fat burner not a muscle building product. It was banned in some states because it contains Ephedra. A stimulant which has been known to cause irregular heartbeats


    [url]http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/saramgoodman1.html[/url]




    No there is no proof that he was cheating his whole career up to that point. But you would have to be pretty ****ing naive, to think that this was the first time Roy Jones ever used anabolic steroids to gain an advantage. Therefore, a huge cloud of suspicion has to hang over anything Jones achieved up to this point
     
  9. Cormega

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    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenedione[/ame]


    Andro has been shown to increase serum testosterone levels.

    [url]http://www.sell.com/23G59Q[/url]

    Nor Andro Ripped Fuel Stack
    Product of TwinLab

    Supplement Facts
    Serving size: 2 capsules
    Amount per serving % Daily Value*
    Androstenedione 100 mg **
    DHEA 20 mg **
    Guarana 910 mg **
    Ma Huang 334 mg **
    * Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet.
    ** Daily Value not established.
    :deal
     
  10. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    BTW, moron, ephedra was banned in all states by the FDA in 2004. Ripped Fuel is still around and available over the counter, but they've changed the ingredients. Maybe try reading up on this **** first next time.
     
  11. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol: And you have the nerve to call me ignorant on the subject.
     
  12. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Maybe try clicking on the links I provided, dip****.
     
  13. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Whatever. Six times the limit. Believe what you want...
     
  14. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    No, you believe what you want and continue to ignore facts that don't support your beliefs.
     
  15. Cormega

    Cormega Quadruple OG Full Member

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    Here's another one:

    [url]http://www.muscle-building.com/androstenedione-supplement-review.html[/url]

    Will Andro show up on a drug test?
    It will show up IF they are specifically looking for it. Or it could trigger a false positive for testosterone by increasing the testosterone / epitestosterone ratio above 6 to 1 or 10 to 1 in some drug screens.
    19-Norandrostenedione and 19-Norandrostenediol are a bit different. Since they convert into nortestosterone they will show up on a drug screen as "nandrolone" which is a marker for the anabolic steroid "Deca Durabolin".
    You must understand though, if, for example, your employer is drug testing you for recreational drugs (marijuana, cocaine, etc.) androstenedione will not show up. In other words, a drug test does not show every drug in the world. It will only reveal the drugs that the test is specifically looking for.
    Yeah, I have the "nerve" to call you ignorant, you ignorant ass mother****er. :yep