so wait, Roy Jones got popped for steroids?

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  1. knockout artist

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    Here is our exclusive interview.
    Read more: [url]http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/flashback-when-roy-jones-tested-positive/#ixzz1qVN58fxU[/url]


    Now answer this, where is the proof that Jones took Ripped fuel?

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    Once again, how do you know the ripped fuel you listed, is exactly the same product Roy Jones used?

    If Roy Jones genuinely used an over the counter product, why did he refuse a follow up test to clear his name?
     
  2. fists of fury

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    No, there is no evidence. But if you think professional sportsmen aren't juicing, then you're living in some ivory tower. And not one or two guys, whole multitiudes of them, from a wide variety of sports.
    The benefits are too good to ignore.
    Sports bodies don't want to confront the plague that is infesting all sports, because it will absolutely destroy the image of that sport.
    It's a problem best ignored.
    When someone gets bust, it's because he got careless.

    As for the roid rage statement, it didn't claim it was roid rage. I put forth a theory that it may have been.
    I've seen it first-hand, and spoken to roiders who have experienced it...why is it so ignorant of me to think so?
     
  3. knockout artist

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    Also, why did they come out with that bull**** about a nasal decongestant!?
     
  4. Whipdatass

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    So Toney, Vitali, Vargas and others are career cheats? No, there is no huge cloud without proof until there is evidence. You're talking about a man's entire career son.
     
  5. Cormega

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    Where's the proof that he didn't?

    Here you go:

    [url]http://www.muscle-building.com/androstenedione-supplement-review.html[/url]

    Will Andro show up on a drug test?
    It will show up IF they are specifically looking for it. Or it could trigger a false positive for testosterone by increasing the testosterone / epitestosterone ratio above 6 to 1 or 10 to 1 in some drug screens.
    19-Norandrostenedione and 19-Norandrostenediol are a bit different. Since they convert into nortestosterone they will show up on a drug screen as "nandrolone" which is a marker for the anabolic steroid "Deca Durabolin".
    You must understand though, if, for example, your employer is drug testing you for recreational drugs (marijuana, cocaine, etc.) androstenedione will not show up. In other words, a drug test does not show every drug in the world. It will only reveal the drugs that the test is specifically looking for.
    I don't know he used that product. He says he took Ripped Fuel. I pointed out the fact that those elevated testosterone levels could very well have come from the andro that some Ripped Fuel products contained at the time.

    As he agreed, Roy submitted test results from his next two fights to the Indiana Commission and both were clean (according to your own source). I still have yet to see any proof that he "refused" a follow up test.
     
  6. knockout artist

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    Ask yourself this, what did Roy Jones see in Richard Hall as a fighter, that made him want to abuse steroids to the point that he had six times above the physical limit of testosterone in his system? That is the risk you take with steroids abuse, if you are caught, it casts a huge cloud of suspicion over anything you achieved up to that point
     
  7. fists of fury

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    It's a necessary evil these days. It's not a question of morality. It's question of getting on the same page as the others.
     
  8. knockout artist

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    So you have no proof that the Ripped fuel Roy took, contained Andro? As Dr Goodman states, Ripped fuel was banned because it contained Ephedra at the time, which was fat burner and a stimulant.

    You have no evidence, whereas I have provided irrefutable facts and evidence that Roy Jones did indeed use anabolic steroids. Why did they come out with the bull**** about the nasal decongestant as well!?


    Are you that stupid??


    Read more: [url]http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlin...#ixzz1qVN58fxU[/url]

    He passed tests that he knew of. He refused the follow up to the test he failed though. Now ask yourself this, if Roy genuinely used an over the counter product, why didn't he want to clear his name?
     
  9. Cormega

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    Yes, I know most professional athletes are likely juicing, but I don't pretend to know a guy is cheating without conclusive proof.

    I really don't feel like getting into another ****ing debate, but I haven't seen any real evidence to suggest that "roid rage" is anything more than a myth.
     
  10. Whipdatass

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    What does Roy seeing anything in Hall have to do with anything? And second, I said I needed proof to discredit a man's entire career. You or someone else made a serious accusation about a man cheating possibly his entire career, and you have no facts to back your opinion/logic.
     
  11. Whipdatass

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    You lost me.
     
  12. Cormega

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    Ripped Fuel containing andro was available over the counter at the time. Roy said he took Ripped Fuel. What evidence do you have that he didn't take Ripped Fuel containing andro and that wasn't responsible for his failed test? That's right, you have none. :deal

    The article says the IBF wanted a second test and that they chose to do nothing. Where's your proof that Roy "refused" a second test? That's right, you have none. :deal

    I'm noticing a pattern here. :yep
     
  13. knockout artist

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    That was the first time Roy Jones was ever tested for steroids, and it was a random test he didn't know of, he failed it. You have to be pretty ****ing naive to think that was the first time Jones used steroids. It's very possible that he was using them for much of his career up to that point. Hence, whilst there is no substantial evidence that he was, it casts a huge cloud of suspicion over anything he achieved as a professional up to that point
     
  14. fists of fury

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    It's just infesting sports these days. I don't really even consider it cheating any longer, because it's so widespread.
     
  15. knockout artist

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    Can you ****ing read!?


    [url]http://www.boxinginsider.com/headlines/flashback-when-roy-jones-tested-positive/[/url]


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    So you have proof that a follow up test was demanded, and proof that Roy Jones never submitted to it.

    Furthermore

    Dr. Margaret Goodman

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