so wait, Roy Jones got popped for steroids?

What do you expect from a fan of a guy who cheated his fans of actual fights .They want to come here and discredit fighters who actually put in real work ..I see more clear now what their agenda's are ..Why else would a Calzaghe fan go after a fighter like Roy ? Its envy Its pathetic ..Its a which hunt by boxing rec warriors ..

 

GImperial1 back for more atsch

What does Calzaghe have to do with any of this?

 

I'm not going to believe your words until you post irrefutable proof that Jones cheated his entire career. All we know is that he had andro in his system after the Hall fight. Fighters know when they're going to be tested. He could've easily avoided being tested or delayed the fight or something so that he wouldn't be caught.

Was it roid rage when he fought Griffin the first time? Did Roy use andro for the Toney fight? When did Jones start using. Lotta questions have to be answered for me to discredit a man's entire career. Is andro a true steroid? Was andro on the banned substance list of the IBF back in 04? I just need more to convict a PEDS user.

 

I just find it funny that a Calzaghe fan wants to always discredit a fighter like Jones at every turn ..You should take more time in disceting your favorite fighter and the reasons why he barely stepped up in his career before you try to knock a boxer the caliber of Jones with your constant nonsense :good

 

I don't think I need to pretend anything.
Look at pro bodybuilding as an example. I don't think they test their athletes (The now-defunct WBF did, and the guys found a way around it.) so it all remains hush-hush, at least in the wider context.
Yet no man on the planet can look like that without serious abuse of chemicals.

The Olympics will be held later this year. I'd like to see how many world records are going to be broken if not shattered.

But I guess you have a point. Maybe I should rather speculate rather than flat out state what I feel is a fact without conclusive evidence.
It's a bit reckless and bad form on my part.

 

That's better. Before you said he "refused", which was inaccurate based on the evidence you provided.

Again, what evidence do you have that he didn't take Ripped Fuel containing andro and that wasn't responsible for his failed test? :think

 

That doesn't mean it is an anabolic steroid (muscle growth producing).

That stuff was sold over the counter and no one considered it a steroid until years later.

 

That's correct.

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Androstenedione[/ame]

 

That's why Floyd wants Pacquiao to be tested should they fight. They come up with new types of PEDS all of the time too.

 

I've provided those same links all throughout

What proof do you have that he did take Andro? If he did, why didn't he submit to the follow up test to clear his name? Why did they come out with some bull**** about nasal decongestants?

I asked you to prove that the Ripped Fuel that Roy Jones took, contained Andro. According to Dr Goodman, at the time (which is relevant) she stated that ripped fuel was banned due to Ephedrine, not Andro. She also stated, that it's highly unlikely that an over the counter product would show up as an anabolic steroid on these tests.

Once again, What does Calzaghe have to do with anything? atsch

I'm providing facts on the Roy Jones steroids issue, for those who don't know, or are in denial (much like yourself).

 

Roids jones Jr

 

And those links didn't support your BS claim that he "refused".

I've provided links to back up my claim that there were Ripped Fuel products containing andro available over the counter at the time. I've also provided links to back up my claim that andro can cause a failed steroid test. Like I said, Ripped Fuel containing andro could very well be what caused him to fail the test. I'm not pretending to know what he did or didn't take. I'm merely pointing out the fact that it could very well have been what he said it was. You're the one acting as if you know even though you clearly do not. :deal

 

I'm not claiming to know anything. I'm just posting up sources and factual information from those who do know (e.g. Dr Hall and Dr Goodman).

There is no evidence that the Ripped Fuel that Roy Jones took contained Andro. At the time, Dr Goodman stated that it was banned due to Ephedrine, why wouldn't she mention Andro? She also states that these lab tests are designed so that over the counter products don't show up on them.

From your point of view, if Roy Jones did take an over the counter product, why didn't he submit to the follow up test to clear his name? Why did he come out with bull**** about nasal decongestant?

 

Furthermore, onto Andro showing up as the anabolic steroid in Roy's system, have a look at this

[url]http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=aVp6dWPKRmEC&pg=PA175&lpg=PA175&dq=Androstenedione+boxing+steroids+2004&source=bl&ots=AXBqK8ezo2&sig=J54gajPIGBQ7BT1OaUlWjrLl0Xo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=aA2YT93qB8bJ0QWN2tWCBg&ved=0CEAQ6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=Androstenedione%20boxing%20steroids%202004&f=false[/url]


Androstenedione did not even show up as an anabolic steroid until the 2004 act, Jones was caught in 2001.

Furthermore, reading through your Wikipedia source earlier

Supporting what Dr Goodman stated earlier, that it's very unlikely that an over the counter product would show up on one of these tests.

Hope that clears things up for you :hi:

 

Ephedrine was used by most boxers in the 80s and 90s to lose weight and get extra energy - even as an amateur I used it. It was as normal as drinking all the energi sugar **** today.