So we're all in universal agreement, yes? Roach better trainer than May

roach is better, because Roger is around 25% punch drunk, whereas Roach, still maintains a HIGH IQ!!!!:yep

 

Freddie Roach has developed Manny into something extraordinary. Considering how limited Manny used to be, and how complete a fighter he is now, its quite remarkable.

Consider also that Roach has trained a number of great fighters, who have won world titles and been elite contenders in their weight classes


The Mayweathers have done great things with Floyd Jr, but he has been training his whole life as you said. He has had a lifetime to get where he is. Floyd is obviously an extraordinary fighter as well

I do feel though that Mayweather Jr is a singular product. Being trained by his father and uncle worked out wonderfully, but neither man has really produced any other notable fighters under their tutelage. Sr's most successful fighter is DLH, who he trained from 01-06, and had mixed success with

 

I think Roger is a pretty damn good trainer. Sr not as much

 

Roach is the perfect trainer for Manny and Roger is the perfect trainer for Floyd. However, I think if you switch fighers with trainers, Floyd still excels where I think Manny loses something.

Roach knows how to get Manny to work. I think with Floyd, he wouldn't have to do anything, push any buttons, etc; Floyd would jus work. I'm not saying Manny wouldn't, but I don't see Roger being a motivator, but rather a partner in what Floyd wants to accomplish. Floyd runs his house and Manny just runs around his house. To a certain degree he runs it, but with Floyd, there is NO question who the boss is.

 

Roger is the Barry Schwitzer of trainers...he inherited a already established talent and takes credit for it haha

 

Yes we all aggree.

 

Snr is a better technical and defensive trainer than both

 

Just look at the past champions and fighters they have trained other than current! You will see Roach is ahead. Then if you add the current boxers, he leaves the whole Mayweather family in the dust.

 

Who cares? Whichever fighter wins the fight, there's the better trainer.

 

If you listen closely and have your jive translator, he does have some credible input to Floyd. Roger actually impresses me at times, because he doesnt overdo it, just gives him a couple things to keep in mind like a proper position to be in and what punch to throw, of course its mixed in with mutha****a and whip his azz, but Floyd already knows what to do once Roger gives him the subtle move.
Roach on the other hand has more programming to do with Manny to get him ready for a fight, beacuse hes not as complete of a fighter as FLoyd.

 

Roach is the better trainer for Pacquaio
Rogger and sometimes Floyd (Sr.) Mayweather are the better trainers for Mayweather Jr.

 

i'm even until the fight. roach is a great trainer no doubt, but under nasim richardson, hopkins beats calzaghe. under roach he loses by a split decsion. speaking of which, enzo calzaghe isn't a bad trainer either. roger mayweather is a great trainer and his fighter has never tasted defeat. it's a tough call. i say mayweather because mayweather is going to box circles around pacman after the 4th round.