So we're all in universal agreement, yes? Roach better trainer than May

roach's better :good
i like this quote from him talking about Manny:

"He's the best fighter in the world, it has nothing to do with who the best trainer in the world is. Give the fighters the credit - trainers are overrated, trust me. We guide our fighters in the right direction, but it's up to them to implement the game plan. It's the same with me, Manny makes me look good."

 

With Roger he only really has Mayweather Jr who has natural talent but does the same thing over which is give up a few later rounds then potshot to victory. With Roach Pacquiao may also be a natural but is getting better under Roach in qualities as in head movement. Due to this and training other talents such as Toney and Starling I have to go with Roach overall.