So what does Bhop's win mean for Calzaghe?

People have long accepted the fact that Hopkins is a physical exception when it comes to age.

 

They would shut the board down here due to the high suidcide rates amoung the calzaghe haters.
I think the internet will explode if Calzaghe beats Jones then Dawson.

 

TFFP, you aren't that daft. Hopkins beat a middleweight world champ, middleweight!! . For the performance to mean what you say it means then either Hopkins has to boil down and beat the man at 160, he would love to I am sure but he can't...the same way that Pavlik can't step up and take Hopkins at 170.

 

No it's not it's basic common ****ing sense.

 

I think you should be explaining that to us...

To me its a great win over a marvel, an unexplainable anomaly in Hopkins.

As evidenced by his 12 round demolition of Pavlik, the guy you say Calzaghe should have fought along with Dawson. So how then should I not award Calzaghe credit for beating the guy that whooped the guy you want him to face? Your logic is ****ed.

 

He is, I agree, but at that age he will still be limited in some departments for being 43. Even Hopkins, superman that he is...

 

Calzaghe would be in his late forties before he concluded that Dawson was ripe for the picking

 

Irrelevant to this issue.

 

Correct, but it wasn't me who brought Dawson up.

 

..or Taylor.....;O)

 

The easiest way to look at this, is when historians look back at Hopkins LHW tenure they will see ass whoopings over Tarver and Wright before losing to Calzaghe, and then a destruction of Pavlik directly after who was top 10 p4p and lineal middleweight champion. This quite clearly reflects on Calzaghe better than simply a retirement.

People will ask "What sort of condition was Bernard Hopkins in?", and the evidence will be quite clear.

 

I don't know how many different ways this can be spelt out before some people get it...

 

i think its fair to say that if calzaghe had fought hopkins when in there primes, hopkins would have won.

 

All I can say is nice avatar:thumbsup

 

Kelly Pavlik is 6'2" tall with 75" reach!!!

He is as much a MW as I am, you're talking as if Hopkins just beat up some little guy. Let's not forget that this is the same fighter that Calzaghe has been accused of ducking and that this fight was set up as a pre-cursor to a Calzaghe challenge next year.