So, what does Lomachenko have to change in his fight game?

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  1. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

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    I stilll think he has the potential to become a very good pro. I don't think he will ever be able to beat Rigondeaux though. Unless it takes some years for the fight to happen and by then Rigo has already slowed down.

    IMO Lomachenko will need to throw more. It doesn't necessarily have to be constant but he could at least go into burst mode once a round or so. When he did that in the last round, he hurt Salido.

    What else is there? Throwing more uppercuts?
     
  2. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    What makes you think that 5'4 Rigo is going to be able to do anything to Lomachenko? Rigo is a natural 118lb fighter. Lomachenko needs to throw more, but Rigo fights nothing like Salido. Salido was always going to be Loma's biggest challenge with his style. I'm a fan of Rigo but it seems we forget how he looked against Cordoba and Marroquin, many didn't even give him a chance before the Donaire fight. It's funny how one fight can completely change someones perceptions of a fighter. I had no doubt that Lomachenko would beat Rigo before the Salido fight, and I still have no doubt. Lomachenko vs Gamboa is a better/fairer fight, which I'd like to see.
     
  3. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

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    Rigondeaux fights on the outside and is ridiculously fast. I don't see Lomachenko landing on Rigondeaux. But yeah, Rigo didn't impress against Cordoba and Marroquin.

    Do you think Lomachenko should look to rematch Salido after a year or so?
     
  4. dealt_with

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    Salido won rounds based on activity and inside body (I say that loosely) work, it really gives no indication of how Rigo would look against Loma. Lomachenko had no problem dealing with Cuban fighters who typically fight on the outside. I'm not saying he's fought anyone as good as Rigo but Rigo has never fought anyone as good as Lomachenko either. The last fighter to beat Rigo was a southpaw with a style not too dissimilar to Lomachenko's as well. Lomachenko is certainly no Donaire and he won't be falling for feints and getting countered. Add in the size difference and I see it as an almost unwinnable fight for Rigo.

    Salido is fighting at 130 from now on, and I don't think any reasonable fan would pick Salido to beat Lomachenko if they fought tomorrow. I think Lomachenko should fight GRJ for the vacant title to at least equal the record, then he could unify against Gradovich before taking on Rigo early next year. I don't see the Salido fight as a setback at all, Lomachenko will learn that he simply has to be busier to get the close rounds. He's used to the amateur system where only clean punches score, he will be able to pace himself better now and throw even if he knows he's not going to land cleanly. I always said that Salido is a tougher fight than Rigo or anyone else due to it being his second fight and the style he was coming up against for his first 12 round fight, I knew if ever Lomachenko was going to lose in the pro game it would be in the fight against Salido. I had Lomachenko winning the fight anyway, but that's boxing.
     
  5. TheRat

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  6. Beremith

    Beremith Active Member Full Member

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    Hmmm yes... I agree that it must've been a good learning experience for him. He's an amateur vet but a rookie as a pro.
     
  7. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He just has to have 20 lbs advantage on his opponents, home advantage, corrupt judges and referees, and, of course, to throw low blow combos under the belt.
     
  8. Cafe

    Cafe Sitzpinkler Full Member

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    He needs to understand better how to pace himself over 12 rounds, his workrate was too low against Salido, his jab is also not very good I doubt he can improve that much though, otherwise, I don't think he needs to change much.
     
  9. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Not fight a Welterweight? :huh

    Maybe he could be a little more aggressive but he didn't really do anything wrong in the fight. He fought a guy who didn't make weight then re-hydrated 19 pounds. Many fighters would have gotten KOed not lost a close decision.
     
  10. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    Exactly.
     
  11. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Lomachenko wasn't learning during the fight, just getting back to what he does best. There are many amateur fights where he would fight out of the break and destroy guys on the inside with body shots and uppercuts. He was just too conservative and worrying about pacing himself for the 12 rounds. If Lomachenko fought how he usually fights from the start then he would've demolished Salido inside the distance like a lot of us expected him to. He still won on my scorecard but he allowed it to be far too close.
     
  12. bballchump11

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    Rigondeaux would school him
     
  13. SweetSciGuru

    SweetSciGuru Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma needs to;

    1. Change Managers
    2. Change trainers
    3. Learn to move better and stay outside
    4. Get a new fan base by changing his name

    Loma lacks the solid boxing technique of a Mayweather or Rigo.

    I predict that in 5 years Loma will take over for Zab Judah as a talent that has never reached his potential, unable to carry over from amateur to pro. He may win a championship or two like Judah, but he will be a low tier champion, like Saildo.
     
  14. Rico Spadafora

    Rico Spadafora Master of Chins Full Member

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    Rigo would have been KOed by Salido. He has a Glass Jaw and that is the reason for the way he fights. He has no Chin. Every time he tries to get aggressive in a fight he gets put on his ass then he goes back to circling the ropes pot shotting and throwing 1/3rd the amount of punches a round for his weight division.
     
  15. dealt_with

    dealt_with Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    YDKSAB you racist little weasel :yep