So what steroids is Marquez partaking in?

he bulked up and then trimmed down by the looks of it and it's impossible to turn fat into muscle

 

If you know so much, i guess the real question is what steroids is Pacquiao on? :yep

 

Marquez said he was willing to take the test

Do you think Floyd is on steroids too because he has taken the tests?

 

I got what you saying.

 

the OP just inadvertently insulted all the *****s out there who beat their chests about Floyd being a "clean athlete"

here you have Marquez who said he was willing to take any test asked of him.

Yet some here still think he is on roids.

*****s claim "Manny should take the tests if has nothing to hide." "If Manny doesnt want to be suspected of cheating, he should agree to the tests"

Well now that is out of the window. Even if someone agrees to take the tests, they will still be suspected of being a steroid cheat.

*****s have no credibility left.

GAME.

SET.

MATCH..

:rofl:rofl:rofl

Floyd is on the same level as Marquez and Pacquiao

all could be on some form of steroids, undetectable to tests. *****s have been knocked off their high horse

 

floyd is on steroids on his off time, they negotiate a fight and a "random testing start day" but of course he makes sure he's clean by then

 

IMO, there are some boxing fans who give me the impression that they really DONT CARE if boxers are dirty. Knickerbocker is one of those guys, I can just read his posts and tell that this dude thinks everything is a joke. I hate boxing fans with a passion who trivialize cheating in combat sports for the sake of protecting their favorite athletes. Floyd Mayweather is my favorite current fighter, but I'd ditch him in a heartbeat if I found out he was roided/PED/EPO'd up.

Now as far as JMM, I think there's legitimate concern because of the Angel Hernandez connection. Ill have to watch the actual fight to see if there's anything odd or unusual in his power, endurance, and overall preformance. I just hope he's not juiced because I'd never support Juan Manuel Marquez again if he is found on PED's.

 

He gots the best ped pusher in the business in Angel Hernandez or Heredia or whatever name he goes by these days. Suddenly like a blind man given sight, in the span of just two to three months, JMM, at his age, is sportin' an eight pack and popeye like forearms deltoids and trapezius.

Since the days of Marion Jones, for which Angel had been convicted as the supplier of Conte's elixir of the cream and the clear, there has evolved specific assays for a handful of specific anabolic steroids incorporated in the standard sport urine testings..Hernandez, of all people, should be privy to these specific tested cholesterol esters if he is worth his salt as a highly paid nutritionist. He'd just steer clear away from these type of cholesterol moiety and just get some decent chemist to produce one with a different antigenic moiety.

Testo testing is still relied on as back up for presumed use of powerful anabolic steroids not tested for, the suppression of which would alarm the monitor to revisit the stored urine sample for future testing of possible new as of then unknown chelesterol esters. But now a days, thanks to the seminal work by Conte, you can get testorerone gel or cream going to your local pharmacy/doctor and complain of fatigue. This test would be easy to mask.

As regards to epo testing, if there is a sudden massive jump in the hemoglobin and hematocrit level in the post fight blood testing compared to the standard cbc and hiv/hepatitis profile of three months prior, this would promp a revisit of the urine testing for specific gas chromatographic assay for epo...there is a way to get around that as I'm sure Hernandez would be privy to.

The question is : does all this translate into a monstrous fighter with a quantum leap in strength, fortitude....the result of tonight match is gonna be very interesting, not only for the two warriors involved but whether you can be actually, overall, more than you can otherwise be through applied science and chemistry!

 

Undetectable steroids are only undetectable because they are not widely known. Once they are identified, standards can be made and they won't be undetectable anymore. Do you expect folks here to actually know what secret drugs are currently beating testing, and to then out them on a message board?

 

Drastically increased? i remember there being a thread with pictures comparing Marquez in the Mayweather weigh in and the Pacquiao weigh in . . . . . He practically looks the same, the only difference being this time hes been allowed to grow into the weight more naturally