So what was your stance on the olympic style testing before all this mess!!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 4life, Jan 11, 2010.


  1. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    Those guys where caught after the fight. In this case were talking about the biggest fight of all time & stricter prefight testing. Totally different. All of pro sports have issues with PEDs, not only boxing. If the testing is behind then its not strange to ask for tuff testing in a fight of this magnitude.
    IMO walking away from $40 mill for 2 weeks of POSSIBILE random testing says a lot.
     
  2. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    "biggest fight"
    Give me a ****ing break
    What about every other "biggest fight" in boxing history?
    Where was your fervor then?

    Hypocritical band wagon morons.
     
  3. Atritionist

    Atritionist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bull**** my ass! Have you read up on Gene-Doping? thats one of the few things that these Labs are doing now days, correct me if im wrong, but there is yet a test that can catch this method of PED. Sure there are those instances where the Anti-doping commitees will catch the news ****. But for the most part in this cat and mouse game, it's the labs that produce the PEDs that are ahead.
     
  4. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If a fighter, any fighter, feels it is necessary he has the right to request it. The other guy has the right to walk away.

    That is like asking to see your doctor's credentials and get referrals BEFORE having life threatening surgery. You have a RIGHT to ask. The doctor has the RIGHT to refuse.

    They are both personal choices however over time one choice will make people wonder.
     
  5. BewareofDawg

    BewareofDawg P4P Champ Full Member

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    I never thought about it because I wouldn't think in a million years that the commissions would not have tests that covered ALL PEDs and also, I always assumed that the tests WERE random.
     
  6. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It's unfair to blame that on inadequate urine or blood testing, when its not a substance or even a drug and its hello, wait for it... not even in the damn urine or blood.

    If you want to make the point that scientist need to develop ways of detecting gene therapy, I'm down with that.
     
  7. Rhino718

    Rhino718 M.O.B. Full Member

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    Why does Pacs reasons for refusing the test keep changing?
    Any Dr. will say that the amount of blood taken will not weaken a fighter.
    $40 mill. for a mega fight and you walk away over a test for banned substances. :huh
    Pac does no wrong, so pass the test, beat PBF and you become a very rich legend and ATG:good
     
  8. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    Thats exactly how I see...Go ahead and prove the Mayweather's wrong and beat the living **** out of FLoyd instead of givning a ton of excuses!
     
  9. 4life

    4life Guest

    Thats what I was saying.

    Before pac/pbf steroid scandal, everything was fine.

    Now, everybodies like

    "We want stricter testing, NSAC is ****......USADA, USADA :fire"
     
  10. bladerunner

    bladerunner El Intocable Full Member

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    Didnt Fraud's camp refuse the Dallas Cowboys stadium cause he uses a substance that is illegal in Texas?
     
  11. The Kurgan

    The Kurgan Boxing Junkie banned

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    I didn't care and I still don't. It's like a lot of sports: we know they are all using stuff whenver they can. What is important is not the KIND of testing, but that it is consistent.

    This is why we need a US Federal Boxing Authority, which should then become the model for all other organisations to model themselves on. A kind of Bretton Woods system of boxing regulation.

    Bring back same day weigh-ins while you're at it.
     
  12. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No he refused that place because there is nothing outside of the stadium to do. Unless you want to go to Walmart or Discount tire.
     
  13. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Disagre on not caring, but you have some serious points with a US Federal Boxing Authority and same day weigh ins.
     
  14. LukeO

    LukeO Erik Morales is God Full Member

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    I agree... 14 day cut-off take the blood tests and fight.
    I have said this 9,000 times.
     
  15. DatBo215

    DatBo215 Active Member Full Member

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    To answer the thread starter most people probably didn't have an opinion directly in support of olympic style testing, but I would be willing to bet almost everyone would have been in support of stricter testing. There really is no logical explanation as to why someone, especially a fan, would oppose it. The comission isn't spending your money on it and you don't have to give any blood. You just get to watch a fair fight. It seems like people on ESB hate to see precedents set. No Floyd never asked for this style of testing before, but is it bad that he does know?? What if would have asked Marquez to test instead of Pac would half as many people care? I doubt they would because Marquez would have probably just agreed and never made it an issue, you know what regular people with nothing to hide set to make a once in alife time payday would do. It sunny how now there are so many people adamantly against change. "The rules of the boxing comission are bigger than Floyd". For one don't the "rules of the comission" state the fighters should be wearing 10oz gloves to ensure safety? For two who cares what the current policies or procedures are I bet they werent the same 50 years ago and at some point they changed. No one complained about the foul line until Wilt started dunking from it or the 3 second violation until Wilt manned the middle. The game, life, drugs, and athletes change. It is inevitable and more often than not for the better.