so what's Ortiz' real backstory?

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  1. oibighead

    oibighead G.O.A.T. Full Member

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  2. shaunster101

    shaunster101 Yido Full Member

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    [ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthesis[/ame]
     
  3. Golden Boy 360

    Golden Boy 360 Boxing's Biggest Cash Cow Full Member

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    blind younger sister? is this real?
     
  4. dannylatics

    dannylatics Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Giy is a nut case, clearly has loads of mental issues
     
  5. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I like him for a minute-As a fighter he dont' live up to his name though..style is fan friendly so I will always want to watch him I guess-
     
  6. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    THEY may all the time, I really don't know and care about they. I do care when a individual boxer does it and effects people who have helped, been there for them and supported him through out his life and HE lies about them. When it is personal. I care.
     
  7. Flexb

    Flexb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yea, I really believe the bitter old guy
     
  8. pipe wrenched

    pipe wrenched ESB ELITE SQUAD Full Member

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    I noticed on the HBO 24/7 Fight Day Live show, Merchant asked him point blank about Mayweather and Co's statements about his story having some falsities, Ortiz ducked the question all together.
     
  9. Post Box

    Post Box I'm back too, bitches Full Member

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    I actually read it. Interesting stuff
     
  10. killjoy408

    killjoy408 Active Member Full Member

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    if you're talking about ortiz you're literally talking about a tree bro.
     
  11. Atlanta

    Atlanta Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol::lol: You again? Listen ******. Just because you spank it to Victor Ortiz doesn't make him special. He's a lying shitbag and anyone with a brain can see that.
     
  12. Conan

    Conan I AM THE DOCTOR Full Member

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    Who cares. He proved himself the chump he is not by headbutting or even trying to kiss Floyd. He proved it by wasting his money on starting a taco franchise. I wonder wat he's gonna call it. "Guacamole stains in ur underwear", "these tacos will make u fart violently". Quite possibly it will be called "The empty taco" much like its president
     
  13. Flatlander

    Flatlander Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Boxing programs help teens stay out of trouble


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    By The Associated Press


    GARDEN CITY -- At some point in every person's life, you ask yourself where your life would be if you didn't have a particular job or hobby or never had met your spouse.


    Take away boxing, and Jose Gonzalez has little doubt where he would be.
    "I'd be in jail or prison," said Gonzalez, 21. "When I was young, I'd get in trouble. Boxing has taught me the right way in life. Something hit me then. I didn't want to live my life like that, and now because of boxing, I have a life."
    Gonzalez's life turn is similar to those of many members of the two Garden City boxing clubs, the Bad Boyz, who Gonzalez fights for, and the Garden City Boxing Club.
    Not every boy or girl wants to be a star basketball player at Garden City High School. And not every Hispanic child wants to spend their evenings and weekends playing soccer. Many choose an activity that won't only take up a good chunk of their time, but also teach them self-defense and discipline.
    Enter boxing, as well as Bad Boyz coach Robert Gonzales and Garden City Boxing Club coach Buck Avila. The two agree to teach anyone boxing -- amateurs can box until they are 33 and must be older than 8 to compete -- but they also instruct anyone who enters the club to teach themselves.
    "I'm always preaching to the kids that they got to get ahead in life," Robert Gonzales said. "A lot of them are always pointing fingers at teachers and saying stuff like 'This teacher doesn't like me.' I tell them they need to do something about that. Go out, get the grades, get a degree and take their place. Then, you'll understand where they're coming from.
    "I've had a lot of kids whose grades were raised considerably. Others don't, and I have to stick with my guns, so some kids won't stick with it then."
    Education is the top priority for Robert Gonzales and Avila. Every boxer must report their grades to their coach, and if they aren't passing, they don't get to box.
    Once the grades are taken care of, training for the ring takes full force.

    Tiffany McDermitt, 14, works out with a medicine ball in Garden City.
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    Each club trains for two hours a night, three times a week. The Bad Boyz use the Kansas National Guard Armory as their camp.
    The sweltering summer heat isn't forgiving on anybody who dons the gloves inside the armory. The sounds of skipping rope, grunting while working with a medicine ball and pounding of bags fill the muggy air. Each boxer is focused on one thing -- the next bout.
    For all the hours boxers spend training, they don't get to compete for two-and-a-half hours like football players do. They get a few minutes in the ring. For the younger fighters, they get three one-minute rounds. Even Olympic boxers get only three three-minute rounds.
    "It's kind of weird. All year, you spend time training every day, but you step in the ring for nine minutes," Jose Gonzalez said. "But when you lose or get a bad decision, it motivates you more, so you train even harder."
    But the decisions aren't what matter most to Robert Gonzales.
    "If you win, fine. If you lose, fine," he said. "It's just about who you are."
    Some lose a fight, and that is it. They are done. But 12-year-old Hector Sanchez didn't let his amateur debut stop him.
    "My first fight, I was embarrassed," Sanchez said. "I got knocked down, but I still wanted to get better. I haven't gotten knocked down since. I thought it would get boring, but it hasn't. I like it, and the trips are always fun."
    Oh yes, those trips. Not only does boxing give many a chance to straighten out their lives, but it gives the opportunity to see places they probably would never have.
    And that isn't just talking about trips nearby to Hutchinson, Lenexa or Joplin, Mo. Jose Gonzalez has traveled all over the country showing off his skills, and he hopes to go international.

    A Bad Boyz boxer jumps rope during training in Garden City. There are two clubs in Garden City, Bad Boyz and the Garden City Boxing Club. Each club trains for two hours a night, three times a week.
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    "I've been everywhere," he said. "Without boxing, I'd be stuck in Garden City. I've got a lot of respect around the world. And when someone asks where I'm from, I tell them 'Garden City, Kansas.' Then, they say 'That's cool. I didn't know they had good boxing in Kansas.' "
    Jose Gonzalez has won a national championship and is ranked No. 7 nationally in the 147-pound class.
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    Without Avila or Robert Gonzales, many of the two clubs' boxers probably would have given up the sport long ago. The two are viewed by many of the fighters as father figures. Jose Gonzalez's father, for example, died when he was 9.
    "I know my life would be harder without Robert," Jose Gonzalez said. "He's been a father figure to me. He's taught me to respect people and be respected."
    The focal point of the two clubs isn't winning national titles or bringing recognition to Garden City -- those things are just gravy.
    "One of the things I'm always talking to the kids about is where do they want to be in 10, 15, 20 years," Robert Gonzales said. "I talk about the do's and don'ts of life and the importance of education. We have a lot of kids, probably close to 70 percent, that I honestly feel if they didn't have boxing they would probably be in a gang or finding something else like that to do."

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  14. DDDUUDDDEE

    DDDUUDDDEE Undisputed Ambien (taker) Full Member

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    Yeah... fighting regularly for what was probably a one bedroom craphole or shared, cramped craphole in a shitty third world country sure sounds like fun.