So Who Beats Garcia At 147?

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  1. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He did, I had it a draw, he was robbed of that.
     
  2. N_ N___

    N_ N___ Boxing Addict Full Member

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  3. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    I want to see that so badly. :lol:
     
  4. Mexi-Box

    Mexi-Box Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I have trouble figuring out who he beats, really. He looked that bad.
     
  5. KO KIDD

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    Pacquiao- I feel Manny is past his best days but he is still on a high level until proven otherwise. He is still quick and still hits hard and he battered Algieri who gave Khan hell so Manny vs a guy not named Floyd probably results in him winning though Bradley may very well do it controversy free this time....I think vs Garcia Manny brings too much speed, angles and volume. Garcia showed good footwork later on and set up some real bombs with his right hand but vs south paws like tonight and vs Judah his left hook really disappears. His right hand is world class but its not the same without his left hook. I think he has southpaw troubles for this main reason

    Brook- Havent seen enough of Brook admittedly and he has been facing soft comp since the belt but he is a very crisp fighter and I think at least with the eye test he has the style to really be a big problem. I lean slightly to Brook

    Thurman- He has been very dominant though Collazo had a moment of success and Guerrero 1 good round he has been very dominant. His power isn't what it is billed as but he definitely hits hard enough to do damage and control his opponent. I think He moves pretty well and will probably have size and strength advantages. I think Garcia if he boxes like he did 5 on tonight can maybe maneuver well enough to time and find a weakness. I just don't know if he has the power at 147. Thurman can be hurt to the body and Danny gets real torque on his punches there. Again Danny is the underdog

    porter- Best fight of the list, Porter to me is very one dimensional but the one dimension is very good. Broner moved up plenty and is regarded as having lost his punch but walked Porter into a left hook and dropped him. Garcia can do the same but I don't know if he handles the work rate and just come forward aggression Porter brings. Porters style will result in Garcia being provided plenty of opportunities but again I just think Porter will muscle him in the clinches

    Bradley- Bradley looked very sharp vs Rios and Atlas appears to have cured a lot of fundamental holes in his game. But we just didn't see him in with a elite operator. ill have a better answer after pacquiao 3. All considered I think Bradley provides angles and work rate that will be troubling. Again Bradley is often caught and hurt in fights or just has a tendency to fall into dangers. I wouldn't rule out Garcia I just don't favor him

    algeri- the jab work rate and movement can resemble a Pedersen or Herrera sort of style. I think Garcia can time and counter him especially now that he seems more aggressive under Jackson. I see this as pretty winnable

    spence jr- Spence hasn't beaten any real top guys yet so I really reserve my opinion. Not that I don't think he is good, Im just waiting to see it

    khan- Garcia times him again and stops him

    Overall I was impressed with Danny vs Paulie but tonight he took a long while to gain control. I had him down 3-1 after 4 before sweeping 5-9. Maybe it was a south paw thing but he looked a weight class smaller than Guerrero and seems capable of being worked inside and pressured. Also fights with Pedersen and Herrera showed a lot of troubles with jabbers movers and boxers and he will be giving away height and reach and weight in many fights at 147....Naturally he will be an underdog here much like he was vs Matthysse as many would not pick him in that fight and he had to do it to prove it. 147 is square one as many fans lost faith in him if they ever had any if not for a brief moment vs Lucas

    With Floyd seemingly gone and Manny just about gone the world at 147 is wide open for a new king. many guys are poised to stake their claim. lets see who fights who and what happens. by 2017 im hoping the titles unify and we have the best go at it much like when Floyd left in 08 and we saw mosley margarito cotto cintron fight in big title fights and unifications
     
  6. Doc Everlast

    Doc Everlast Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Garcia should take the Khan rematch.
     
  7. KO KIDD

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    isn't khan wbc 1

    they should have fought tonight

    I don't really like a vacancy fight where its a top 3 guy vs a barely top 10 guy
     
  8. Mod-Mania

    Mod-Mania Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac
    Brook
    Thurman
    Porter
    Spence
    Bradley

    Providing Garcia doesn't get another gift of course.
     
  9. DANGER_MAN

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    Pac/bradley/peterson(when he moves up/herrera/porter/thurman/brook/maidana
     
  10. alspacka

    alspacka Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd make Garcia very strong favourite against Porter. Not that he's bad or anything, just styles.

    TBH I give him a chance against any of the names here except maybe Pac. Welter is overrated right now.
     
  11. ki_ote

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    Only people who don't know boxing. Garcia pounded Guerrero.
    Floyd won one more round than Danny against Guerrero , but didn't land all those bombs.
    Guerrero has an iron chin, we all know that, but he got his ass pounded.
     
  12. ki_ote

    ki_ote Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Pac=No way
    Brook= Hell No
    Thurman=Entirely possible, but you'll find out that Keith doesn't have a great chin. So No.
    Porter=Close, but No.
    Spence=Very possible
    Bradley=No by KO.
     
  13. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Pacquiao, Bradley, Thurman and Brook.
     
  14. lewis gassed

    lewis gassed The Bronze Dosser Full Member

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    Mikhaylenko and Kavaliuaskas spark his ass.
     
  15. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    Viktor Postol made him move up...