So who is Fury going to fight?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Um, Wlad was 39 years old , and years form now now even Wilder fans will think he was hyped. To point there was nearly 5 years between Wlad and Wilder. One for one, fine, but not over 5 years, fight someone else ranked. Who else has Fury beaten?! Looking at Fury's resume he was beaten just two top ten ring magazine opponents at the time he fought them, that's it. His next best win? You tell me? Maybe Chirsoa, who's a weak 3rd on anyone's resume and had already lost 4 times before facing Fury, or Wallin who's ranked 50th at Box Rec, yet cut him up like Freddy Kruger in a match Fury that could have lost on cuts.

    Fury is 32 years old. His resume right now is weak and adding a 2020 Covid-19 special of the month, who as I mentioned will have little time to prepare for him isn't helping him, quite the opposite. That is my central point.

    Vitali, if your interested has been 9 ring magazine ranked opponents, of much better quality I might add, judging on how much you think Wlad had left at age 39. In addition Fury did not test cleanly in the fight before the same year he fought Wlad so he sure could have beaten Wlad on juice.
     
  2. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    I don't mind who it is next, as long as it is Joshua after.

    And to be fair to Tyson, he has fought and beat Wilder "Twice" in my opinion in his last Two fights, once in terrible shape and the other in better shape.
    Some in shape all year around didn't have it in them to get in with Wilder once!!!
     
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  3. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry I don't agree with this.

    Does Fury deserve credit for facing and beating Wlad and Wilder, away from home and barely losing a round, absolutely. Which is why I have him number 1.

    The Wlad win was in 2015. He then has his issues, whether you think this makes him a hero or a villan is up to personal interpretation. Regardless, other boxers have managed to avoid big lay offs like he had.

    Now starts the comeback trail. Has 2 warm ups and then faces Wilder, massive credit to Fury. He then finds Schwarz, from somewhere, ok still on the comeback trail. Wallin just happens to give him a fight, but was never meant to, let's be real.

    He's now ready physically and mentally to face Wilder. Beats the snot out of him. The division number 1.

    From 2015
    Wlad
    Seferi
    Pianeta
    Wilder
    Schwarz
    Wallin
    Wilder

    Full credit for Wlad and Wilder. For the ring champ. The resume is worse than Wilders. Hes had the soft fights, he's had plenty of soft fights. It should be the best he can find.
     
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  4. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" banned Full Member

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    I honestly don't mind seeing the hw champ doing some old fashioned stay busy defenses. It used to be pretty common back when fighters fought more often. It's the hw division so there's always a chance of upset.

    Would mind fury fight helenius, Rivas, takam or ortiz.
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, but he was the undisputed world's number 1.

    Yeah, and the world's best heavyweight excepting himself by Ring and TBRB.

    Nothing you've written has in any way disputed anything that I wrote.

    Not sure if you're joking, but Fury actually retired seeking treatment for mental illness in the interim.

    Are you sure you're OK?

    Anyway, he did much better at meeting the best available than someone like Vitali Klitschko, for example, who was pathetic at doing that.

    NOTE - best available - not his brother.
     
  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    So if i'm to understand you correctly...ALL that is acceptable to you is:

    Wilder
    Hunter
    Anthony Joshua
    Anthony Joshua

    :lol:

    Extreme task master. Something that's never happened in the history of modern boxing, but fair enough, fair enough.
     
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  7. covetousjuice

    covetousjuice Putin did nothing wrong

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    It will be someone bad.

    Covid lockdown and wilder doesn’t seem to want the rematch.

    Just accept it and hope fury’s next fight is good. At least Fury is fighting and not on another coke binge...
     
  8. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You think?

    12 yrs a pro, 30 fights, has a belt and division number 1. Wilder, Hunter and Joshua in that order seems reasonable.
     
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  9. Mendoza

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    Okay so based on this reply we agree he was only beaten two ranked men, one was 39 year old, the other as history will likely show was not that good to begin with. The rest of his title defenses are full of non ranked men and a few cream puffs.

    Vitali can't make people fight him. As I mentioned before Lewis did not want the rematch and Lewis at age 37 . Lewis was better than anyone Fury shared the ring with. Others like Haye and Valuev backed out too. Vitlai's best available was almost always his brother. End of.

    I suppose we also agree Fury was busted for illegal PED's

    Should Fury pick his cousin for this title defense? I'm half joking but that's above the level of opponent I expect.

    Our sport's most important title has gone the belt milking route.
     
  10. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Yeah, I mean I pretty much know that:

    1 Wilder
    5 Hunter
    1 Joshua
    1/2/3 Joshua

    That's 1 to mean "best available", excepting oneself obviously.

    That's some vile sick stuff. Marciano maybe? Nothing in say, the last 30 years at heavyweight would compare, almost guaranteed. What was Holyfield's run at around Bowe time?

    But it's fine to be so incredibly demanding of your sportsman as long as a) you're consistent in your criticism of all fighters and b) you expect to be let down.
     
  11. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    deadACE,

    Sorry I don't agree with this.

    Does Fury deserve credit for facing and beating Wlad and Wilder, away from home and barely losing a round, absolutely. Which is why I have him number 1.

    The Wlad win was in 2015. He then has his issues, whether you think this makes him a hero or a villan is up to personal interpretation. Regardless, other boxers have managed to avoid big lay offs like he had.

    Now starts the comeback trail. Has 2 warm ups and then faces Wilder, massive credit to Fury. He then finds Schwarz, from somewhere, ok still on the comeback trail. Wallin just happens to give him a fight, but was never meant to, let's be real.

    He's now ready physically and mentally to face Wilder. Beats the snot out of him. The division number 1.

    From 2015
    Wlad
    Seferi
    Pianeta
    Wilder
    Schwarz
    Wallin
    Wilder

    Full credit for Wlad and Wilder. For the ring champ. The resume is worse than Wilders. He's had the soft fights, he's had plenty of soft fights. It should be the best he can find.
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  12. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No we don't. Where do you get this stuff from?

    Yeah, you can run down the opposition all you like, i'm personally interested in one thing. Were they the best available? Yeah, they were weren't they.

    :lol: I absolutely love this. It's when you reveal your pitiful double standard without really being pressed. Vitali, you see his record when it comes to meeting the best, that's so awful - pitiful - because he couldn't make people fight him.

    Fury, on the other hand, who has already done better than Vitali at meeting the best, he CAN "make people fight him" I suppose :lol:

    Well, it's interesting. Fury's case is complex and he has denied all wrongdoing. He has DENIED all wrong doing. On balance though - yes, I think he's used performance-enhancing drugs. That's my guess.

    On the other hand, someone like Vitlai Klitschko is an admitted cheat :lol:

    https://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/o...ho defends his,steroids earlier in his career.

    Fury claims innocence - Vitali admits openly to being a cheat :lol:

    Tell me this, what falsely constructed reason will you produce for somehow giving admitted steroids cheat Vitali Klitsckho a pass?

    He can fight whoever he wants.

    1 - Wilder
    2 - Absolutely any professional boxer breathing
    3 - AJ

    Is completely acceptable, obviously.

    I mean Fury is milking his success, yes. Less than confirmed steroids cheat Vitali Klitschko milked his success, but he's milking it.
     
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  13. heerko koois

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    I hope it will be Robert Helenius
     
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  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    McGrain No we don't. Where do you get this stuff from?

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    :lol: I absolutely love this. It's when you reveal your pitiful double standard without really being pressed. Vitali, you see his record when it comes to meeting the best, that's so awful - pitiful - because he couldn't make people fight him.

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    Fury, on the other hand, who has already done better than Vitali at meeting the best, he CAN "make people fight him" I suppose :lol:

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    Well, it's interesting. Fury's case is complex and he has denied all wrongdoing. He has DENIED all wrong doing. On balance though - yes, I think he's used performance-enhancing drugs. That's my guess.

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    On the other hand, someone like Vitlai Klitschko is an admitted cheat :lol:

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    I mean Fury is milking his success, yes. Less than confirmed steroids cheat Vitali Klitschko milked his success, but he's milking it

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  15. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    The testing was for the Hammer fight


    Vlad was mega hot on testing
    You really think he would have got away with anything during the Klitch era even towards the end?

    No way
     
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