So who is greater in ATG Ranking? Pacquiao Vs Hoya?

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  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    LOL. First of all one of his losses was against MAB, losing to MAB in the manner in which he did doesn't mean he's shot. Then he beat Pac, then lost to Raheem a runner who could have given him problems earlier in his career.

    Then had two grueling fights with Pacquiao.

    By the time of the Diaz fight and the third Pac fight, yeah he was done. Not by the first Pac fight though. Just another ridiculous way of trying to discredit Pacquiao.
     
  2. muec7

    muec7 New Member Full Member

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    At the moment De La Hoya, just.
     
  3. This thread is ******ed. Oscar lost most of his big fights while Pacquiao has destroyed and humiliated ring legends. There's no comparison possible. Plus, Pacquiao is still in his prime. There's no telling what he can accomplish.
     
  4. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Post #40 young lad. Write up your response, type it, and wait for mine. ;)
     
  5. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So I guess Manny has never lost and he also "destroyed" Marquez?

    Bolded is the important part. Manny has time to make this entire discussion a joke, but it isn't one yet.
     
  6. Losses don't matter that much. What matters is how you look when u get back in the ring. It's not like he took round after round of punishment... Getting knocked down 3 times in the opening round is pretty damn humiliating, especially against a man believed back then to be a one dimensional brawler.
     
  7. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There's no shame in losing to a shot Morales. But to say Morales was at his best in the 1st Pac fight is just ridiculous. If morales was in his prime,Raheem wouldve been destroyed and Diaz wouldve been flushed down the toilet.
     
  8. FrochPascal

    FrochPascal Boxing Addict Full Member

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    why is this even kinda close...its pacman
     
  9. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    There's a big difference between past it and shot. He was NOT shot in the first Pac fight.

    Whittaker was past it when he "lost" to Oscar, he was shot when he lost to Tito.

    Tyson was past it when he lost to Holyfield, he was shot when he lost to Lewis.
     
  10. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    you said kinds, stay in school. Cop that R.I.F son, you need it:rofl
     
  11. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good enough. I voted for Pac either way.
     
  12. BlueApollo

    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This is a distinction a bunch of people never get a grip on. :-(
     
  13. vegasdude

    vegasdude Speed is Power! Full Member

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    WTF. Pacman on the lead. :huh
    OK, I'm a ******* but Hoya ranks higher.
     
  14. Marnoff

    Marnoff Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is what it boils down to.

    If Oscar had beaten every name on his record, he'd be the greatest fighter in history, bar none.
     
  15. IsaL

    IsaL VIP Member Full Member

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    Had Pacquiao fought everyone, and in their prime like Hoya, Pac probably wouldn't be talked about today.

    Not Pac's fault completely, he was fortunate enough to have come at the end of MAB's and EM's career. As well as DLH's.