So who is greater in ATG Ranking? Pacquiao Vs Hoya?

Dude, don't worry about that post, the post you should be quoting and trying to debunk is post #85.

I'll wait. :good

 

In part I'm glad you realize and admit Morales was shot. Secondly, Whitaker was NOT coming off a humiliating loss a la Morales. Infact Whitaker should have been undefeated coming into the fight with DLH and had had some impressive wins vs great opposition in his previous fights. Unfortunately Whitaker didn't deal well with the loss, got on the junk and ruined the rest of his career with drugs.

Let me school you on something. Shotness is not necessarily and always attributed to age. Size is not always attributed to height. You know Whiatker had beat JCV years before he lost to DLH, JCV the man that decked Winky Wright 5 times.

ODLH moved up to 147, a weight he was unfamiliar with to fight the reigning champ.

:rofl:rofl:rofl No you just didn't say that! First Quartey was in the PRIME of his LIFE, Larios was PAST his prime, Quartey was undefeated, and had one of the best jabs of his era. Larios was a good B level fighter in his prime.

Quartey had an iffy fight where he should have won easy, but because of Kds he ended up getting a questionable draw. His previous win was a little over a year and a half. A

Shane was on steroids was was clearly the stronger man that night. Oscar was clearly the smarter man.

You still didn't prove why EM was a better win than Whitaker, Mab a better win than JCC, Hatton a better win than Vargas.

So DLH has a few losses at the twighlight of his career, Pac has some in the beggining. It is very common for great fighters to rack up a few loses towards the end.

All you did was TRY to dissect ODLH resume, very uneffectively, but never even mentioned Pac's. You can dissect ODLH's resume all you want, but it's still better than Pac's.

 

On another note, it's funny how tha TS put an option reading "uliuli is likes oscar's balls too much LOL ", yet I have ODLH somewhere in the top 50-70 while he has Pac in the top 20, YET he FAILED to show anyone why and how he can justify that, all he does is put a poll where a bunch of teenagers who don't know anything about boxing in the 90's pick what's hot right now. atsch :yep

I'm still waiting for your rebuttal Dr. Harrison, why are you trying to let others debate for you.

 

Thanks bro. :good I'm just trying to debate, but I just keep getting insults hurled at me from *******s.

 

I urge everyone to read post# 85.

 

WOW dude you lose a little credibility with that one there.....Larios was DONE by the point Manny got to him, while Quartey was top 10 P4P, undefeated, and is probably Oscar's biggest win...

Oscar I think has him right now, and it's hard to admit that, but Manny can make this question silly in time as his is still in his prime and scalping either Cotto and/or Mayweather will make this MOOT.

 

At least you, even with your obvious bias as well, write posts with some intelligence and valid reasoning, even if it does backfire :yep most of the time. I'll look at the post when I get home from the office, I've read it before. At a casual glance, it seems the quality of the opposition is very close between the 2 boxers. My reasoning for putting Pac over De La Hoya is that Oscar has lost most of his important fights, while Pac has twice avenged his biggest loss to Erik Morales (115-113 on all 3 judges, meaning he lost by 1 round, while not wearing his usual Reyes gloves as he was sold out by his former promoter). Pac's 2 early losses came as a teenager, both from being weight drained, like De La Hoya. But unlike other's that doubt Pac's win over Oscar, I gave full credit to Torrecampo and Singsurat for knocking out Manny, not their fault he was weight drained.

 

UliUli is making the pac nuthuggers look good :verysad:verysad

 

stupid ass dumbo poster. :yep:yep

 

You're a filipino that happens to be a *** so your arguments mean **** then

 

don't be a bitter mexican kush. :yep:hey

 

I'm not bitter but that guys a turd. I voted for Pac by the way :good

 

Joakim Noah

 

:rofl. you are cool man, in your balimbing ways.

how is JMM nowadays btw.