So who thinks Peter Jackson would have beaten Sullivan?

I think so. Jackson was IMO the first real athletic bigman with the power to boot.:good

 

I lean towards yes. IMO Sullivan is a bit untested vs the best gloved fighters. I think Jackson defeats him under queensberry rules via decision or late round TKO.

A pro Sullivan argument would be Jackson was even with a very good Joe Goddard when they fought in the ring. Both guys were down. Most feel Sullivan was better than Goddard, and hit even harder.

 

I have no idea who would have won.

Peter Jackson deserves to be considered one of the greats of that era though, and a champion in his own right.

 

Peter Jackson was the first great black heavyweight champion. He was the black champion in an era when blacks and whites did not fight. Who would have won between him and the Great John L Sullivan. Both at their best I would have to go for the Great Peter Jackson by spectacular knockout.

 

Not too old Sullivan - wins by KO. The one beaten by Corbett could be beaten.

 

Blacks and whites did fight. Corbett, Slavin, Maher, Goddard, Jeffries and many more fought Jackson: Sullivan is probably the only fighter who ducked Peter. The Goddard argument is a good one but I think that in the last 2-3 years of his reign Jackson probably would have one, Yeah, he was cheated of his chance more than anyone and Corbett ducked him also after he won the title.

 

Not so Matt. Corbett offered Jackson a re-match as the champion. The two meet in the hotel can could not agree to the venue. Corbett wanted to fight in Jacksonville or New Oreleans, as he was famous there for his fights over Mitchel and Sullivan. Jackson did not want to fight in the south and balked.

Jackson fought a ton of ranked white fighters. Race was only an issue with him vs Sullivan. As foot notes, Fitz sparred with Jackson, Jeffries fought him, Goddard fought him, Slavin fought him, Dooley fiought him etc..

 

I think PHIL Jackson would have beaten John L. Sullivan

 

Jackson by dec or late stoppage,he and Corbett ushered in a new era of scientific defence,Sully was the last of the rushing slam bang thumpers,he would be dangerous for the first half of the fight ,he had real [power in his right ,but if Jackson could avoid his bull like charges,he would systematically chop him down over the later stage of the fight ,imo.

 

Are you sure? Jackson had not lost a fight in 14+ years, trained hard, looked good in camp, and was in shape. Going into this fight, no one though Jackson was " absolutely done . "

It was not Jackson's age that made him lose, it was opting to fight hard early. His chin did not hold up to Jeffries power.

 

Jackson would have beaten Sullivan. Sullivan was an avowed racist who flatly refused to fight blacks. Corbett was racist also but not to the degree of Sullivan. Corbett marvelled at Jackson's skills for the rest of his life after their fight.

 

Jackson was nearly 37 had engaged in two fights since his victory over Frank Slavin in1892,he beat two nobodies Denny Kelliher,in a 4 rounder and Gus Wikie in a no dec in 6 thats 10 rounds of actual combat in 6 years.Jackson was retired and running a boxing school he was as live a challenger as Fitz was at 42 when Johnson stopped him,probably les ,as Fitz had some fights, plus Jackson was in the grip of TB,which would kill him 3 years later.Jackson was finished.

 

Once Sullivan started to decline it would only be a matter of time untill you reached a point where Jackson could beat him.

Time would have been on the black princes side.