So WHYTE/WILDER/FURY are all saying Hearnz/AJ are lowballing! AJ is DUCKING!

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  1. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Even if Hearn and Joshua were willing to give such a split, Wilder has gone on record saying he doesn't want Joshua next no matter what split including 50/50. So offering Wilder 55/45 is pointless when he clearly doesn't want the fight next even at a more favourable splits. Right now Wilder isn't interested he wants Fury and nobody else.

    Fury on the other hand seems to be having issues with his team. He contacted Hearn asking for a flat fee, has said he doesn't care what Joshua makes as long as he's paid what he's worth. But his trainer Ben Davidson and his promoter Frank Warren both are saying 50/50 or no deal to the media.

    Personally I just think Fury/Wilder needs to be sorted out before Wilder or Fury are serious about fighting Joshua. Either it happens and the winner then can seriously negotiate with Joshua or one of them ducks the other and fights Joshua instead. Until one of those scenarios happens doesn't matter what Hearn offers, Joshua isn't their priority.
     
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  2. PaddyGarcia

    PaddyGarcia Trivial Annoyance Gold Medalist Full Member

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    Yeah, I mean everything does and has pointed to to those two rematching anyway (especially after being ordered by WBC) so I kind of assumed any alleged offers from Hearn etc were meaningless on both sides.
     
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  3. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    I get what you are saying and i repeat it would of been good had he been there. But unless you are suggesting he has not made it quite clear he wants those fights even though hes saying it all the time including on American TV and unless you are suggesting that he hasnt actually made any offers and contracts to Wilder or Fury i dont really see how it makes any difference, other than it would of been good if he had turned up. And Finkel, Wilder, Warren and Wilder are all now admitting that offers have been sent to both fighters so its not like it hasnt.

    So i see no point in saying Joshua needed to be there or its proof he dont want it cuz he wasnt there when hes made much much bigger steps to get those fights made.
     
  4. Geo1122

    Geo1122 Active Member Full Member

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    The division will correct itself after the Fury vs Wilder dilemma is resolved. It’s just that both fighters find themselves in a sweet spot, winning the battle as it were.

    The only super fights that were available were Joshua vs xyz. Now that Wilder and Fury are fighting each other it temporarily changes that.

    60/40 isn’t a lowball offer, regardless of this though. Lowball for Joshua, given his worth perhaps.
     
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  5. 305th

    305th Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, all just meaningless talk to keep the quiff-haired casuals relatively quiet for the moment. Fury himself reported the offer was "derisory". It's the Offers Deflector Shield that Hearn has utilised so well. He knows his casual fanbase absolutely lap up talks of splits, contracts, offers, A-side etc like a thirsty man at a freash water spring.
     
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  6. Badboy87

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    Makes a statement turning up though doesn’t it, anyone else notice aj never around if wilder or fury about
     
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  7. Ukansodoff

    Ukansodoff Deontay plz stop ducking Joshua. Thank you. Full Member

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    It does, that i can not deny. Are you accusing Anthony Joshua of being Tyson Fury and Deontay Wilder? Cuz they said the same thing about Clark Kent.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    What about Wilder actually saying on Thaboxingvoice that he didn't want to fight Joshua next for no amount of money or split and would rather fight Fury next is me only listening to Hearn, Deontay literally said it in an interview for everyone. I didn't even say Wilder was ducking did I but you assumed this is what I thought just because I don't agree with everything that comes from team Wilder. Wilder is simply going another direction, he clearly has unfinished business with Fury no denying that. But you had to jump down my throat and call me a biased Joshua fan because you can't actually come up with a real argument against the words that literally came out of Wilder's mouth.

    If Wilder wanted to really fight Joshua why didn't he show up for Povetkin? That argument works both ways. Joshua right now is the one chasing the fight, Wilder said so himself, Joshua is begging for the fight and Joshua agrees.

    As I said in my original post Joshua is wasting his time Fury/Wilder needs to be resolved first.
     
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  9. Badboy87

    Badboy87 Member Full Member

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    No what I’m saying is Tyson got the wilder fight by sparking the feud years ago In Sheffield when wilder broke audley Harrison in round one then again Tyson got in ring in New York at msg to wilder, he made it happen but then again if you don’t want it but have to fool public go the aj route ya get me Blud lol
     
  10. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Umm it doesn't goes both ways considering when joshua fought povetkin? Wasnt wilder already agree to fight fury in December 1st especially when wilder was ringside of fury last tune up fight? So why should wilder be at ringside for joshua vs povetkin when he was already scheduled to fight fury for December 1st? That doesn't make sense.
     
  11. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    In the post fight interview after wilder vs fury was announced a draw, wilder has publicly and repeatedly saying his next fight he wants is the fury rematch. He made it clear and still says it. When he says he doesn't care how much team joshua meaning hearns offer him? He said Joshua had his chance to fight him in the past but refuse. Wilder wants the fury rematch next very badly to settle the score and if wilder wins? Then he'll be looking to right joshua if joshua really got the guts.
     
  12. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    By your logic then Joshua didn't need to be at Wilder/Fury because we all knew it was a 2 fight deal and there would be a rematch. So if both Wilder and Fury's next fight was agreed to why did he have to show up to their first fight?
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    When did Joshua refuse the fight, when he sent the contract Wilder agreed too that he never signed in the summer or perhaps the contract after that for a fight in 2019 the one where Wilder said he couldn't sign it because it had no date or venue, only to go onto sign the Fury fight with guess what no venue.
     
  14. rayhogan

    rayhogan Dont worry Pac, you wont Full Member

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    Bro stop. If wilder had got a decision win? There wouldn't be a rematch because no rematch clause. <<<Like seriously that doesn't come close to compare of you saying why didn't wilder show up for joshua vs povetkin when he was already scheduled to fight fury. Considering Joshua wasnt schedule when wilder vs fury fought? He should've been there to make his presence known and call out wilder or even fury since wilder vs fury was announced a draw.
     
  15. Badboy87

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    Eddie got them played, they could do with a bit John fury in there life’s no political correctness bs further more no bs unlike dread ed
     
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