So will Wladimir Klitschko be fighting Bermane Stiverne or Kubrat Pulev?

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  1. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Look at all the fans who want Wlad taking their only HW belt over to Europe so he can defend it in stinkers.
    lol
    Nobody wants to see Wlad get get a cheap win over the WBC against small , slow ass Stervine.

    If Wlad cared about the glory , he'd wait for the winner of S vs W. Collecting belts means nothing . its who you win them from is what matters.

    Pulev does more for wlad than a paper champ at the end of his career who held the vacant belt for 5mins
     
  2. kostya by ko

    kostya by ko Boxing Addict

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    The most sensible thing would be Wlad/Pulev outdoors in Germany before summer ends, then the winner fights Stiverne/Wilder winner indoors in the US over the winter months.

    If the unification is on, Wlad may as well take it, but he sort of needs the Pulev fight as well for his long term reputation. Now that Vitali is out of the picture, he has an opportunity to fight a challenger who is a genuine #2. Not even sure if he's ever done that as #1, Haye and even Povetkin were probably behind Vitali IMO.
     
  3. jisi

    jisi Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :good:good

    And this would be great!!!!!!!!!!!!! :happy:happy
     
  4. ludwig

    ludwig Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pulev has been waiting a long time. I remember the Pulev-Dimitrenko fight being talking up as a direct eliminator to face Wlad. That was like 2 years ago. Since then he won 2 non-bull**** mandatories over credible opponents.

    Cmon Chef Stiverne has no ****ing chance vrs. Wlad he's too short and too slow. Pulev is the fight to make.
     
  5. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vlad will knock Pulev out, no doubt about it. Pulev wanted another fight or two before fighting Vlad. Pulev is not in Vlad's class..................I read that Vlad wants to fight Stiverne first, then Pulev, Wilder, Jennings, etc...............Don King said, years ago, that he would never allow the Klitschkos to win one of his titles. Don King hates The Klitschkos to the extreme.
     
  6. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Who cares. The titles are being held in hell until Wilder or Stiverne bring them back to America.
     
  7. sas111

    sas111 Active Member Full Member

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    Seems rules does not apply when Wlad is involved. He has a mandatory fight sanctionеd by IBF. "Pulev popular or not popular in Germany is irrelevant".
    So Alex Leapai was very popular and relevant, right? I completely understand His desire to unify, it is so natural, but he should take his mando fight first and the next year after Wilder/Stivern fight is done, your team may approach the winner for unification fight.

    + WBC were explicit that the next Stivern's opponent must be Wilder. Having in mind that why the hell Wlad's team is still trying to bend the rules? This would set a bad example for Boxing organizations and their credibility and for the fans.
    Is it all about the money? If that is the case this is not a sport anymore.
    Period
     
  8. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Vlad beat Wilder from one side of the ring to the other while sparring for the Wach fight. Wilder is not in Vlad's class and Wilder knows it. Vlad would knock Wilder out. Wilder can't land his right hand on Vlad and would get countered. Vlad would knock Stiverne out also. Vlad Vs. Pulev would be a mismatch. Ustinov is not in Vlad's class, not by a long shot..................
     
  9. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nonesense. Holding all the belts simultaneously is a far more significant achievement than beating a no-name like Pulev who has done little in the sport.
     
  10. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why should he take the mandatory first? Far more natural to take the unification first and the relatively unimportant mandatory fight after. Let there be an undisputed champion.
     
  11. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    Its not Wlads fight to take. Wilder is in line for the shot , not Wlad.
    What can't you understand about that simple fact?
    Pulev has been orderd and K2 are pretending to be in talks with BS manager.

    All you Ktards are doing everything to excuse Wlad from fighting Pulev.

    Pulev is the NO.1 Contender and a major bogeyman everybody in the division wants no part of.
    He is big and strong and beating him would do a lot for Wlads credibility opposed to beating another small , lard ass type he has fighing his whole career.
     
  12. madballster

    madballster Loyal Member Full Member

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    If Wlad can convince the WBC then he is in line for the unification shot -- If Stiverne and Don King agree. That's how boxing works. Wilder could probably ask for step-aside money in that case.
     
  13. dinovelvet

    dinovelvet Antifanboi Full Member

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    The WBC belt goes deeper than BS manager and Don King. Wilder is mandated and has Al Haymon backing him.
    If Wilder pushes for the fight which he said he is going to , k2 won't even get a look in. K2 got nothing on Haymon. Zero.
     
  14. silencio

    silencio Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah, why bother with title defenses at all.. What the fens want to see are credible title figts - what you are talking about is what is good for your business. I for once, believe that rules are more important than whichever boxer's self interest.

    What you don't seem to get is that Wlad does not own the titles - he holds them. And the condition is to defend them periodically. He has not defended the IBF title for two years, thus depriving any HW boxer out there of the ability to try and win. If defending the IBF is irrelevant for Wlad - well he's free to drop the belt at any time and be free to pursue his business interests elsewhere.

    Nor should Stiverne care about what Wlad wants - Wlad has never given a damn about any of the challengers' wishes. Stiverne, I am sure, has his own interests and plans and he has a right to pursue these with the same freedom that Wlad and Vitali have been given to chase their own self-interest. Period!
     
  15. Vergilius

    Vergilius Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And you don't remember any instances in the history of boxing where a unification has taken precedence over a mandatory fight? If not, you can't have been following the sport for a very long time. There is nothing wrong with WK pushing for the fight - if he can't get it, he can deal with Pulev instead - but you really have to be a blind hater not to be able to see why he'd rather unify than fight boring, old Pulev.