So you think PAC used PEDs against margarito?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by enzo, Feb 17, 2011.


  1. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    Ok... so when do think pac was probably using roids and what kind of PEDs? I doubt HGH was involved coz 3 pounds in the last 3 years doesn't make sense.
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    Unless I see the proof in pictures of Pacquiao then and now, and notice Pacquiao's head to be significantly enlarged from say his 126 lbs/130 lbs days to the present, I cant in good faith bash Pacquiao for his head size.
    Some people have big heads and Pacquiao may be one of those persons.

    I'm convinced myself Pacquiao's a PED user, but his head size is'nt part of my reasons........destroying much bigger fighters without an effect in his stamina fighting these much bigger athletes, and then his embarrasment of his many excuses that followed Mayweather asking for the testing is what has me convinced.
     
  3. blur

    blur WLADGLASSJAW Full Member

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    pac look very slow in the margarito fight. i think he's past it.
     
  4. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    HGH doesn't really have much to do with weight gain. It is and always will be a conditioning thing. As for when pac started using what and when I don't know. I would imagine that PEDs are like any drugs, there are entry drugs that people start off using. They have to get used to using them. So that they start to become a normal part of who they are as an athlete. Then they start using more and more potent drugs and using them more often and in different situations. I'd imagine that lots of professional athletes have dabbled in one form of PED or another at one point in their careers, the same way that most of us dabble with **** like weed but never really move on to more hardcore drugs or become regular users.

    Anyways I'd imagine that if he's doing them he's probably been incorperating some form of PED into his conditioning since well before the Diaz fight. Again IF he was going to do some serious **** for the Diaz fight he probably had already started doing some of the more heavier PEDs before but probably at lower doses and frequencies. His usage may have increased substantially for the Diaz fight. It may have after. He could have used the Diaz fight as a test run.....then rampted it up for the DLH and Hatton fights. Who knows. Maybe he's never changed what he's been doing maybe he's changed his diet/intake/training exercises. Again, my main point is that lost of athletes do this type of ****. There are always a lot of different excuses. But at the end of the day if things start looking too good to be true...these days there is a pretty good chance they aren't. Catch my drift?
     
  5. Gander Tasco

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    I love Pac's performance against De La Hoya. He was perfect. He needs to go back to that style of using his feet a lot more and moving his head.


    I don't think he's deteriorated that much at all though. He looks a tad bit slower now, less sharp (which could be just a lack of focus) and he's more willing to stand and trade with the bigger guys now that he's comfortable fighting them.
     
  6. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    i don't think he has the same stamina... the man is not getting any younger plus the fact that pac did work his butts of for this fight and was very motivated. That was one of his best training camps ever.
     
  7. DobyZhee

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    I think he may have used PEDS, but I can't prove it.

    there's always the possibility.
     
  8. enzo

    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    :lol:

    that's true... imagine what the haters are imagining every time pac obliterates his bigger opponents. Pac is so great he defies logic... too good for his own good.
     
  9. blur

    blur WLADGLASSJAW Full Member

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    PEDS did not help him increase his stamina on the margo fight.
     
  10. o_money

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    That was a very very hard fight. Margo is by far the biggest guy pac's ever fought. He's got massive power and he never stops coming. Why shouldn't Pac get tired? He gets tired in a lot of fights. Maybe after having a very bad camp and being the much much smaller man PEDs kept Manny in the fight...ever thought of it that way? PEDs don't make you a machine...they just give you an edge. PEDs or no PEDS. Good camp or bad camp. Over coming a guy like Margo is always going to be a tough job.
     
  11. el mosquito

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    this ****ers think PEDs can do miracles lol. from the discussions in ESb, i haver a list of things that Peds can do

    1. it can make a one-dimensional fighter use angles and an elite footwork with great ring generalship

    2. it can make a one-handed fighter use both hands, give him an arsenal of punches and a thundering right hook (applicable to southpaw Peds users)

    3. PEDs improve defense and can turn a forward-face-first slugger into a slick mofo

    4. Peds give you a steel-chin, the user won't even feel pain as long as he is under the drug

    5. Peds turns you glass body into steel.

    6. PEDS give you additional muscle volume with no side effects because you still maintain your old stamina (forget the fact that your weight has been the same since four years ago, don't let facts get in the way of a cool story.):hat

    7. PEDS can make you into an ATG fighter. if you're a bum, all you need is to take PEDs and watch your name soar into the pages of history:good

    8. You can use PEDs without any diminished effect even if you undergo a strict blood testing up to seven days before the fight, an unlimited urine testing up to the day of the fight and a blood and urine test five minutes after the fight, its practically ****en undetectable. :happy:happy


    9. If you think a fighter will knock you out, you can use PED use as an alibi not to fight him. PEDs benefits even none-users (Xylocaine isn't PEDs even if it gives you fists of steel lol):hey

    PEDs is great. Maybe PEDs is also the cure for AIDS and cancer, or maybe PEDS can bring peace in the middle east too. **** it, everyone should be educated about the wonders of PEDs :thumbsup:thumbsup
     
  12. Gander Tasco

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    nah I doubt it. He's only 32 dude. He's still at or near his peak. He's just standing up and trading a lot more now bc he can take these guys punches.
     
  13. falcom

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    pacquia started taking peds since birth- *****s

    floyd started sniffing fart since birth- *******s
     
  14. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    :deal Clottey didnt want any of the PAC monster!! If he would of opened up he would of got sparked the **** out!
     
  15. slugger3000

    slugger3000 You Mad Bro? Full Member

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    Zip it NOOB!