Some Calzaghe Fans Are Starting To Sound Like Mayweather Fans

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Zuniga, Taylor, Zertuche, Lockett, McKart?

More difficult than Joe's resume? Joe's resume, even earlier part, not talking about the mid years where little was done, stomps on Pavlik's.

Eubank, Reid, Sheika, Brewer, Mitchell, Veit is better than what I listed above. Way better.

Then add recent Lacy, Bika, Kessler, Hopkins.

I am not justifying the Jones route over a more challenging fighter, but let's not get absurd over a bad career decision here that any real Calzaghe fan is not happy with, nor proud of.

 

Not too big, but perhaps he can't healthily make 168 anymore after the jump to 175, it was hell apparantley to make it for Kessler and the weigh in with a very much too lean Calzaghe had me worried.

BUT, a better fight than Jones could be made. Tarver for the other belt, Dawson, even Glen Johnson, all better fights than **** shot Jones, which he originally said he didn't want because Jones was useless at this point, save for money, which is the purpose for the Jones fight.

Again, Pavlik is no big deal, but he is better than Jones is now, and there are better fights than Pavlik at that, such as Chad Dawson, who could actually defeat Calzaghe at 175 cleanly.

 

He has a great stamina because he has had to lose the pounds for years. It was a relief for him to move up, not just for a fight against Hopkins.

 

I don't underrate Pavlik and Taylor. I said Abraham sparks Pavlik, Taylor UD's Abraham.

And even if you did discredit Joe's comp, it's still better than pavlik's, which you said took the more difficult assignments.... aside from Taylor, he's fought Miranda and C level fighters, where as early on Joe took some very good comp(not great, but very good) and lately has taken some great comp.

So it's not being looked at logically.

Miranda, Taylor, Zuniga, McKart, Lockett and Zertuche do not stack up to Joe's late 90's/early 00's resume, and seriously doesn't stack up to his recent resume, sorry, not even close. That was my point.

Pavlik is a 1 dimensional limited come forward fighter, Taylor is not 1 dimensional, but is horribly flawed, they both can defeat different opponents on a similiar level depending on how they match up, such as the Abraham example.

Pavlik would have KTFO by Hopkins, Taylor made it real close with Hopkins. Pavlik would have iced Ouma in 3, Taylor struggled with Ouma. Taylor lost twice to Pavlik, Abraham would lose to Taylor. Pavlik would get crushed by Bute, Taylor could likely beat Bute by UD.

Depends on the matches. Neither are even on par with Kessler or Calzaghe however.

 

I never thought PBF was scared of Cotto, and I don't think Calzaghe is scared of Pavlik.

I do think Casamayor is scared of Campbell though

 

Truth is, Joe wasted a lot of time in his younger days feasting on mis-mandatories and home fed fighters. Yes, he has a few decent names on his resume. But that's it. If he wants just a money fight, that's fine. But beating Jones won't do much for his legacy. Beating Pavlik or Dawson would.

 

Pavlik will be an after thought as soon as steps out of that weak division, or fights Abraham(bad match up), he surely won't beat any top guys at 168, Taylor, whom I loathe, has better chance at doing that even though Pavlik beat him. Taylor reacts bad to pressure, Pavlik will not do well against a pressure guy who take his shots, nor a good counter puncher, as he can he easily be outboxed by a top opponent with some power to go along with boxing skill, as Taylor has medium power.

 

Oh God why is everybody making excuses for Calzaghe? He called out Kelly himself and then he got scared. Forget resumes, forget weight classes and stop getting away from the point. Joe incited this himself and deserves all the hate he gets.

 

Com on .. Calzaghe gains nothing by fighting pavlic this late in his career, pavlic doesn't have the name , money or legacy for a fighter who is 1 or 2 fights on his way out.

Joe is headed for the Hall of fame 10 year undefeated and most defense of his title.

At least with Roy he get a name and a some what good payday on his way out the door.

 

Why not EXPLAIN how that's a bad matchup for Pavlik. All you do is say this and that would happen AS USUAL. atsch

If anything, his style gives him an advantage over Abrahams. His activity and being a much more accurate puncher will work more to his advanatage then AA's counter punching with those wide punches he throws will. Not to mention AA being more economical with punches will tire him out more if he tries to match what Pavlik throws in the long run. AA's defense and toughness will keep him in this, but he will be hit a lot more then he's used to. Pavlik's showing a nice array of punches to throw as well.

I hope you realize this is just more opinion You saying what WOULD happen when you really have no clue whether it will or not. And besides, we all know how "UNBIASED" you are towards Pavlik and Taylor.

 

That's ridiculous to say. He gains NOTHING beating Pavlik? An undefeated, in his prime fighter, who's looking like one of the next super stars in boxing? And Joe C gains NOTHING?atsch

 

Whats yikes:yikes am I reading this correctly