Some (dare I say it) critical comments after watching LEONARD v HEARNS I again....

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  1. Thread Stealer

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    Holyfield-Tyson 1.

    A good but not great fight, a grapple-fest, not a top 5 fight of 1996, but wins Fight of the Year by The Ring.
     
  2. o_money

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    Yeah I'm a contrarian I guess. I would have rated it a 4 at the time. But a 7 to 7.5 would seem fair to me.
     
  3. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    Barrera vs Mckinney was the best fight of 1996.
     
  4. Arriba

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    True but FOTY for The Ring goes behind just a good fight. Tyson-Holyfield was the BIGGER fight which is why it won out.
     
  5. DINAMITA

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    In my opinion, Duran-Leonard I is THE pinnacle of boxing as an art form. Pure pugilism at its beautiful best. Infighting is my passion, and that fight is 15 rounds of cold-blooded heaven. Two of the most stupendously skilled soldiers to ever grace the boxing battlefield (I get a little poetic when I'm drunk), putting their heart and soul into every single swing, expending every drop of speed and stamina their bodies can muster into avoiding oblivion at the hands of the other...

    ...it's the Noble Art, the Sweetest Science, the Greatest of All-Time!

    Roberto Duran is a modern God!
     
  6. DINAMITA

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    Barrera-McKinney is one of the best fights of the 90s. MAB is amazing.

    Question for you as a fellow Barrera fan: do you think Barrera was better in '96 or in '02?
     
  7. GazOC

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    Watch Hagler-Hearns the same way. You'll see one guy break his right hand within the first 30 seconds and then get walked down by the other guy.;)

    Sometimes who the fighters are make the fight what it is.
     
  8. Arriba

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    ya see that kill?!
     
  9. DINAMITA

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    I disagree mate. Alejandro Gonzalez v Kevin Kelley from '95 is one of my favourite fights ever, and I don't rate either man. I rate Leonard and Hearns so highly, but their fight and their respective performances left me cold. Do you think Leonard or Hearns showed how great they were that night?
     
  10. Arriba

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    It was the biggest fight of both fighters careers..so I think they were a little tense and perhaps even nervous. I think once Hearns decided to become more technical, the fight slowed dramatically. A great fight in historical context but overall? I dunno.
     
  11. GazOC

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    I didn't mean that great fights need be by great fighters, just that sometimes great fighters can make ordinary fights great.

    I have to admit Leonard-Hearns is one of my favorite fights, I've seen it dozens of time but I'm a Leonard fan so maybe I'm a little biased. I'll try and watch it again barring in mind what you've posted but I really like fights that ebb and flow (as well as liking ones with all out action) and thats what does it for me. I really enjoyed Berto-Collazo for those reasons, not that much action but the fight was going one way and then the other.

    I'll take another look at Leonard-Hearns..:good
     
  12. DINAMITA

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    Cool mate, look forward to hearing your thoughts on a re-viewing.

    Though I have to say, for me "ebb and flow" means one guy being in trouble, then recovering and putting the other guy in trouble, a la Corrales-Castillo or Benn-McClennan. Although Sugar Ray was losing rounds, I don't think he was ever in the slightest danger.
     
  13. Addie

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    I think Marco was a better fighter overall in 2002 than he was during his days at 122lb. He wasn't as insolent, his defense had greatly improved after that defeats to Junior Jones, but his offensive arsenal wasn't as impressive because he wasn't as offensive minded. You also have to consider that he was fighting much better opposition in the early 2000's than when he was in 1996, and for that reason, it's hard to make a comparison on footage alone.

    He was a better spectacle at 122, but he was much harder to beat at 126.
     
  14. GazOC

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    The fight was fairly even then there was a moment in the 3rd or 4th when Leonard clipped Hearns and slightly wobbled him, after that Hearns decided to get on his bike and built up a big points lead before Leonard managed to stop him. Like I say, I'm probably biased but I do think its a better fight to watch than Hagler-Hearns.....
     
  15. DINAMITA

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    That answer is problematic for me, given your stance on how unimpressive Manny Pac is.