Some examples of head to head monsters?

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  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    You hear it occasionally in General about Roy Jones, "he was the head to head pound for pound #1" or something. Okay. He probably is a fine example who was ultra dangerous at a given weight (168) regardless of what he did or did not achieve there.

    Who are the head to head threats from history at other divisions?

    Can there be such a thing as a "head to head pound for pound #1"? Is that a phrase that appeals? Or is the whole thing a bit twilight zone?
     
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  2. pryorgatti

    pryorgatti Active Member Full Member

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    My head to head monsters

    HW: Mike Tyson
    SMW: Roy Jones Jr
    154lbs: Thomas Hearns
    147lbs: Sugar Ray Robinson
    140: Aaron Pryor
    135: Pernell Whitaker
    MM: Ricardo Lopez
     
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  3. Sonny's jab

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    "Head-to-head", "Pound-for-pound", "All-Time" is really stretching the conceptual paradigm to breaking point.

    However, it's not as implausible as Harry Greb having actually existed. :lol:
     
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  4. McGrain

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    Some great picks here.

    Tyson though...that's a can of worms I don't really care to open but he certainly wouldn't be my pick.
     
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  5. Mantequilla

    Mantequilla Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is often the domain of fanboys looking to blow their talented but flawed favourites exploits out of all proportion.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    You said it right.

    Remember guys recently trying to tell everybody that Williams was better than Hearns head to head :lol:
     
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  7. Minotauro

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    Oliveras at 118lbs
    Gomez at 122lbs
    Armstrong at 126lbs
    Arguello at 130lbs
    Duran at 135lbs
    McCallum at 154lbs
    Charles at 175lbs
    Louis at 200lbs the one that destroyed Schmeling
     
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  8. mightyd40

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    i dont really wanna list the obvious ones like liston or ali......but when i have fight scenarios in front of me i tend to favor gene tunney over a lot of people actually. i think he is vastly underated in terms of h2h talent
     
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  9. McGrain

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    Gene Tunney is a hard to pick against between 175 and about 200, that's for sure.
     
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  10. Sweet Pea

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    Lopez at 105
    Gomez at 122
    Whitaker at 135
    Duran at 135
    Pryor at 140
    Napoles at 140
    Robinson at 147
    Hearns at 154
    Jones Jr. at 168
    Evander Holyfield at CW
     
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  11. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    Nothing wrong with any of these Sweet Pea. How do you see Hollyfield faring at 200 v Dempsey, Marciano, Langford, Charles, Louis? This is a bit of an ambush, I know, but your opinion?

    Why no pick at 160?
     
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  12. Sweet Pea

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    160 is too stacked.

    I'd take Holyfield's versatility to win in bouts with Dempsey, Marciano, and Langford.

    Charles and Louis are tougher calls, though I feel Charles was at his best at 175. Louis I may have to think about.
     
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  13. pryorgatti

    pryorgatti Active Member Full Member

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    Did we forget PBF at 130?
     
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  14. El Puma

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    Ricardo Lopez
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    I'm going to name one in line with not having accomplished bugger all in a given division but being rather dangerous H2H, to say the least

    Roberto Duran at 140

    :yikes
     
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