Some interesting tweets by Groves about Anderson

He is better. Hopkins is older than both of them but would be a proper opponent for anyone. It depends on the fighter. Ali was shot to **** at 35, Hopkins was in arguably his prime at late 30s.

Johnson is past it, but a year ago he went 12 rounds with Bute and not long before that he lost by a majority decision to Froch. So he is one year past mixing it with the second and third best Super Middles in the division. At Reids age he was knocking out Allan Green and losing a close points decision to the likes of Chad Dawson.

You mention him being retired which is a laughable point when Robin Reid was also retired, for 4 years! He got stopped by Lacy in 2005 and looked shot. Two years later Froch stopped him and he called it a day.

That was the right choice he was totally shot by the age of 36. He comes back 4 years out of the game and beats a journeyman with a 9-45 record on points and then loses his next fight in Prizefighter.

Anyone with eyes (which includes you) can watch Reid from the past 9 fights (which span 7 years) and see how totally washed up he is. He was DONE 5 years ago, whereas 2 years ago Johnson was KOing world title contenders and one year ago he was being competitive with Froch.

He shouldn't be fighting because he looked old in his last fight and it is time to hang them up. But he is FAR FAR more credible an opponent than Reid.

 

Excellent post. Dunky's just desperately trying to justify why Reid was in any way deserving of a shot at the British title. Anderson isn't a champion in my eyes.

 

So you agree with me, that Glencoffe is old, shot, & really shouldnt be sharing a ring with George Groves?
However, your beef here is that Reid is 'shotter' than Johnson?

I couldnt really give a **** about their differing levels of shotness. What I give a **** about is posters acting all holier than thou about Kenny Anderson fighting Robin Reid, whilst sweep sweeping under the carpet the fact that George Groves is doing EXACTLY the same! So Glencoffe is the bigger name, of course he is.

People though claiming George Groves is leaving Kenny Anderson in his slipstream whilst hes beating whatever fight the old weight drained prunish looking Glencoffe Johnson has left in him?

Dont make me laugh. Your right that I have eyes strike, & thay can certainly see right through the bull**** that people defending Groves for fighting a past it old retired man whilst bashing Anderson for fighting a past it old retired man post.

Double standards. One rule for Kenny, another rule for Georgie around here.
The Groves goons really make me chortle around here,

"Kenny beat an old past it Reid, what a shite win & what a deplorable **** of a man to boot for putting the likeable legend Reid on ***** street"

"Groves is fighting an old past it Glencoffe Johnson, what a name to get on his resume, this win will make the world sit up and take notice!"

as they say in Glasgow...

You couldnae make it up!

 

No one is making out that Johnson is going to be much of a win, but it's still a sight better than Reid!

 

Am I?:huh

& here was me thinking I was exposing the double standards of certain posters who bash Kenny, but cut Georgie some slack for fighting old, past it opponents!

Oh well!

 

They were going to, until 'ole dunk got on the case:smoke

 

Dunky how ya doing pal?.

 

Johnson is past it at world level but still poses a threat to the best prospects, such as Groves, Rodriguez or Estrada. Reid is shot at British level and doesn't pose a threat to any decent British level fighter, such as Smith.

It's not like we're talking about two opponents who are equals here, which is what you seem to be suggesting. You're taking the point that both are past the best and then building your argument around that, completely ignoring that one is a good challenge and one isn't.

Johnson isn't ever going to win another world title but he'd easily beat Anderson and stop Reid in a couple of rounds. He's old but still a level beyond them. He poses a threat to Groves too.

 

well, I am pretty mired down in this debate SPB, if the truth be told.

In fact, I was just pondering throwing Robin Reids best fights against Glencoffe Johnsons best fights, Glen lost to Sven Ottke, & as we all know Robin Reid beat Sven but got robbed!
Throw in the fact many people thought Reid was robbed against Joe Calzaghe too... was Reid REALLY such an inferior fighter to Johnson at any time?

I would love to see Glen vs Robin, to sort this one out once and for all! Reid wins? Anderson beats Groves in a rematch. Johnson wins? Groves takes the W in the rematch.

Although thats not really fair, cos as I have been told here, Johnson isnt as shot as Reid. Despite being older. Despite being prune faced boiling down to super middle. despite being retired.

Its a can of worms this one, for sure:think

Sorry Skills, Im so consumed by this thread my fingers typed my thoughts as my brain invariably wandered back to this, the most important debate I have had here since the last one!

Im good SPB, honestly buzzing about Kenny finally getting his hands on the brit title, & getting his career on track, cos once Kenny gets active? Hes going to be massive. People who doubt him never watched him steamroller opponents in the amateurs, hes a freak of nature.

To cut a long story short, when scottish boxing is doing well? Im doing well! & with Eddie Hearn finally delivering the goods for Kenny? Im a happy man indeed:thumbsup

 

evening dunk, you know anywhere where i can watch footage of anderson in the amateurs?

 

Johnson of 12 months ago beats Reid & Anderson.

Reid of 12 months ago beats nobody in the top 20 domestically & that's being generous.

 

Yeah i can see your in the trenches with this debate.

That's a good thread you know Dunks, Reid vs Johnson Prime for Prime or even who was the better fighter. TBH Reid on his day was IMO a better fighter then Johnson. Those days are long gone, i sometimes ponder what might of been for Robin espicially if he got the nod against Joe Calzaghe..

 

Jack, I hear what you are saying. However, shot is shot in my book, old is old, done is done. Glencoffe ticks all of those boxes.

Im pretty shocked though that you honestly still rate Johnson as a 'live' opponent, but hes shot & weight drained. Hes not beating Anderson, maybe he would beat Reid, but Groves will destroy him. It will be a sad sight to anyone that isnt a Groves fan, just like Reid was when Anderson stopped him.
Jack, I know you hate Anderson & like George, but look at this one objectively.

Its a mismatch. In a nutshell. End of story.

I have mixed emotions about this, cos it will be sad seeing Johnson turn up for the payday, & go out on his shield against the smug but talented Groves.

However?
Its going to be a nice 'I told you so' moment for me posting here, but the big mouths who have been forming an orderly line to have a go at me will skulk off, as they always do.

 

at the end of the day reid was a much worse opponent for kenny than johnson is for groves, you cant really dispute that, but Groves should win. however to be fair to kenny he didnt pick reid, the board did. he wanted the british title, he fought reid and stopped him, didnt look great early on, but got a fairly early stoppage. groves should beat johnson, id like to think he wouldnt stop him mind. then we should have a look at their progression from here, both should learn from these fights, as Kenny had a tricky time early and Groves may take a few off Glencoffe during the course

 

awright Smogster:good

There used to be a montage of some of his amateur KO's on YT, but I cant find them now. Kenny used to have it on his BEBO page if I remember correctly!

Who was the irish commentator on BBC? when kenny was hammering guys on his way to his gold, I remember the irish commentator used to get sickened by his KO's they were so brutal