Some more Mayweather /Hatton talk

Kostya Zoo · Nov 28, 2007

Illstate said:

In my book Castillo is 0-2 with Floyd, and my book agrees with the book that counts.
I didn't say anything about Tszyu being less than prime.
I don't think he beats Floyd in his prime though. I haven't really seen enough of Tszyu in the ring to say it for sure.
I'll admit that I am borrowing a move from some of the more famous Boxrec geniuses on this board and looking at records and so on and so forth. I understand that doesn't mean anything, But I don't see the type of fighters on the record that would make me say "Yeah he could do that with an undefeated multi division title holder"
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Tszyu would have been a tougher challenge to PBFthan any fighter he has faced to date.

GazOC · Nov 28, 2007

Toopretty said:

Unless you live in a fairy tail world. Floyd is 2-0 against Castillo. If he lost the first fight please tell me which 7 rounds Castillo won. Dont give me that point deduction bull**** b/c Castillo had a point deducted for hitting on the break as well. Ok, I will wait to crush you. And if thats the cast Hatton LOST to Collazo. Since judges dont matter.
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Either way Mayweather struggled with a fighter that Hatton walked through.....take from that what you will.

Illstate · Nov 28, 2007

Imperial1 said:

I think its unfair only becuase how many fighters have the resume that Oscar has ?I think the problem with boxing fans is that they are too fickeld ..How many people brought into the DLH /MW fight ?? Over 2 mil now that the fight didn't live up to the hype Floyd continues to come under more scrutiny ..I don't think there is a diffrence with the scrutiny the Floyd now receives and what Hatton had received prior to his high profile fights !

No matter how you slice no one boxing fan will ever be completly satisfied w/any boxer ..I think we should continue to embrace fights like this ..

I mean for all the lables they get why is it that there is less respect for getting the fight made ???Isn't that what we wanted to begin with ???
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Exactly my point. I only bring these things up because people will bring a list of lesser fighters that Mayweathe fought, and they will use that to make it look like he's no good becasue he fought a few guys that were not great.
And they also use his defensive not get hit style as a reason to say he's not great.
So what I'm sayin is if the 2 fighters switched resumes I think you would see a Floyd that has no reason to be defensive with most of those guys.
And that's not to take anything away from what Hatton has done. I am a firm believer in the fact that all you can ask of a fighter is to beat who he actually did fight.
and Hatton has done just that.

Pimp C · Nov 28, 2007

Kostya Zoo said:

Tszyu would have been a tougher challenge to PBFthan any fighter he has faced to date.
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I doubt it. A past prime Oscar a prime JLC 2x and Chico were tougher than a fadded Zoo.

Imperial1 · Nov 28, 2007

Illstate said:

Exactly my point. I only bring these things up because people will bring a list of lesser fighters that Mayweathe fought, and they will use that to make it look like he's no good becasue he fought a few guys that were not great.
And they also use his defensive not get hit style as a reason to say he's not great.
So what I'm sayin is if the 2 fighters switched resumes I think you would see a Floyd that has no reason to be defensive with most of those guys.
And that's not to take anything away from what Hatton has done. I am a firm believer in the fact that all you can ask of a fighter is to beat who he actually did fight.
and Hatton has done just that.
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And the same could be said for both men ..As long as they beat whomever is front of them i'm all for them to put it all on the line in a super fight ..My only issue comes when it takes forever to make ..

john b · Nov 28, 2007

Lonsdale said:

When are you going to stop spreading Lies PBF ducked Kostya BIGTIME stop being such a nuthugger i don't like boxers that run or boxers that hold but don't put my tongue up eithers ass.
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That maybe true because hatton was looking to fight vivan harris for the wba belt but vivian decided to go elsewhere.

PowerPuncher · Nov 28, 2007

I actually think the Tyszu that Hatton fought would have been made to look like Gatti against Mayweather. Tyszu is equally poor defensively and eats leather every fight and Tyszu waits to counter punch - hows he going to counter Floyd?

A pity it never happened though

Pimp C · Nov 28, 2007

Lonsdale said:

When are you going to stop spreading Lies PBF ducked Kostya BIGTIME stop being such a nuthugger i don't like boxers that run or boxers that hold but don't put my tongue up eithers ass.
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You don't know what the **** you're talking about. PBF said after his fight with either Sosa or Brussells on HBO that Zoo was one of the people he wanted to fight.:deal

GazOC · Nov 28, 2007

Mayweather avoided Zoo like the plague....FACT!!

Illstate · Nov 28, 2007

GazOC said:

Either way Mayweather struggled with a fighter that Hatton walked through.....take from that what you will.
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It's my experience as a fan of the sport that there is absolutely nothing to take away from that. Even if we pretended tha Castillo was not a broken fighter by the time he fought Hatton. If we pretend that Castillo was in his prime. It still wouldnt matter how each fighter beat him. BEcause they have different styles. It only matter that they did beat him. Floyd did it twice by the way.
Lets see how Castillo looks from here on out. Lets see if he's still fighting on the level he was when he fought Floyd.

john b · Nov 28, 2007

GazOC said:

Mayweather avoided Zoo like the plague....FACT!!
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true. Did U see liverpool tonight GAZOC

Illstate · Nov 28, 2007

GazOC said:

Mayweather avoided Zoo like the plague....FACT!!
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Well good for him. It seems he was wise to do so. Since Tszu is a trivia question now, and Floyd has done bigger and better things.
So being afraid of. Tszu, Margarito, Hatton, and Spdafora is obviously the thing to do.

GazOC · Nov 28, 2007

Pimp C said:

You don't know what the **** you're talking about. PBF said after his fight with either Sosa or Brussells on HBO that Zoo was one of the people he wanted to fight.:deal
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Can you possibly be any more vague? Either way talk is cheap, Mayweather was **** scared of Zoo around that time.

Imperial1 · Nov 28, 2007

Illstate said:

It's my experience as a fan of the sport that there is absolutely nothing to take away from that. Even if we pretended tha Castillo was not a broken fighter by the time he fought Hatton. If we pretend that Castillo was in his prime. It still wouldnt matter how each fighter beat him. BEcause they have different styles. It only matter that they did beat him. Floyd did it twice by the way.
Lets see how Castillo looks from here on out. Lets see if he's still fighting on the level he was when he fought Floyd.
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Yeah I can't beleive people are comparing Hatton's win over Castillo to Floyd's ..I'd like to forget that by the time Castillo fought Hatton it wasn't too long after his wars w/Corrales ..But I can't forget !

Thats like comparing Trinidad's win over Whitiker to Oscar's they each fought a much diffrent version of fighter !

Kostya Zoo · Nov 28, 2007

Pimp C said:

I doubt it. A past prime Oscar a prime JLC 2x and Chico were tougher than a fadded Zoo.
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no way. Past prime oscar never stood a chance, that fight was a ****ing pointless publicity stunt sparring session. I hope you didn't pay for it.

And JLC and Corrales were lightweights. size advantage: Tszyu.
And Tszyu is better than both of them anyways.

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