Some people badmouth UFC however...

Hardly surprising when they`ve purchased all the competition. PRIDE failed due to gang related activity that was a national scandal in Japan. The WFA also folded. The UFC bought those orgs took there best fighters and dashed the rest. As for the IFL EliteXC and HDNET there not really worth writing home about. I still prefer the PRIDE presentation by a country mile. Hopefully DREAM doesnt go the same way that PRIDE did.

 

The criticisms of the UFC arne't about quality of events

 

No, they are about how much of a dickhead its owners are. It has nothing to do with the fighters.

 

And the fact that after eight years of owning the company, Zuffa still hasn't gotten a major t.v. deal and only show about five free events a year.

 

atsch I honostly never realized people would've ever consider that when we badmouthing UFC people thought we're talking about fighters/fights/presentation. It's the ****ing dictatorship that is a crime.

Lesnar vs Couture :roll: I don't understand why I'm the only one thinks that this is an absolute robery. They're still calling Nog the champ on TUF too :rofl. Wtf?

 

PRIDE FC FOREVER!!! LOL...(golden era of mmma imo)

Today ? I personally enjoy K1 (and K1's Heros)
I enjoy DREAM (but not as much as Pride...although , i'm liking them more and more as time goes by...They just need to hire more talents...but it'll take some time).

Affliction was interesting...(the production was "so so")...but i still have to see more events from this org to get a better idea of what they're truely worth.

The UFC is interesting too...But not to the point where i actually take the time to even watch 3 fights...Most of their cards are mediocre. Surprisingly mediocre (since they almost bought all the key fighters)...

Lately , i'd say they've been making lots of efforts. Their production still sucks though. And i also do not like their very odd matchups. (the priviledge they're giving to certain fighters...some get a direct shot at the belt for no reason , some match ups are just absurd).

The worst ORG at the moment is EliteXC imo. (they do have some excellent fights from time to time...but it's rarely the case)

 

I dont know why but I love watching Dream Cards. Its not even about the fights. Its just the atmosphere. Japanese are the best combat sport fans in my opinion.

I watch the UFC but I hate almost everything about it. The cards are alright but can be much better and much more competitive. I hate TUF and I hate the fact that they put mediocre athletes on the show. I hate the fact that they represent the show with absolutely no class. I hate Dana White and the idiotic things he says about other combat sports.

BUT the UFC has the best production value. And it has the best fighters in the sport bar none. No contest except for at heavyweight. I must say the Lesnar/Couture fight just leaves a horrible taste in my mouth but ill get over it.

EliteXC is an absolute joke. Like Pride, they are more interested in putting on freakshow fights than legitimate ones. Kimbo/Abbott, Kimbo/Shamrock. What a joke.

Affliction, I need to see more of it. But I thought their first event was alright. They put on a good card but lacked competitive fights. Almost all of them were predictable. AA would beat Rothwell, Fedor would beat Sylvia, Barnett, Lindland etc.

I think we need to understand that other MMA promotions aside from the UFC have a very difficult time succeeding. So we better get use to the UFC and grow to like it because the promotions we enjoy now probably wont be around in 5 years.

 

Totally disagree with you on this one. A lot of those fights weren't competetive only because the fighters made it that way. Everyone thought Sylvia was gona give Fedor fits. The biggest critics said that **** and than right afterwards they were saying "well we WERE expecting that to happen". Get the **** outa here. He whooped Sylvia's ass and no one expected it to be that way. AA was being favored in the fight but Rothwell was never a pushover and had his chances to win. It was a competetive fight on paper. Rizzo BEAT Barnette, how is that predictable??? Lindland, yea he should've won, but he looked like **** doing that.

 

Alot of sour grapes against the UFC I find, If your "Pride' and various other Org's were so great they would have been able to succeed. Alot of you Dana haters want to sit with a voodoo doctor and stick needles in Dana White for your hatred towards him.

I find it humorous you hate someone that brings the fights that most people want to see people hate on so much. The man might be arrogant and an ******* but what difference is it to you? if he brings the best that MMA has to offer what's with all the hate.

Truth is people love to whine and suck and ***** and complain but i don't have time to worry about what Dana does and how he does it.

He is the only guy to run a successfull MMA org so maybe you whiners should STFU.

It's not by accident most other org's have not been able to survive.

I enjoy the fights while some others are more worried about "presentation' or the screaming lady or whatevr else. I want to see the best fighters fight the best. And for the most part Dana does that. So ***** and complain all you want if anybody can do it better let me know.

And as for the Couture-Brock fight i think that is a great matchup and might be the biggest MMA fight of all time so people whining about that one, their cries will not be heard. couture-Brock winner facing Mir -Nog winner for the UFC HW belt.....what could be better.....and yet people still cry.

Some of you guys ***** more then my GF it's scary to listen to some of you whiners. :| :|

 

What exactly is major TV to you ? Sure UFC isnt on CBS,Fox,NBC or ABC but they have a great deal with Spike. They already have had 5 free events this year featuring some damn good guys and right now they have 3 more scheduled so thats 8.

 

Well nothing they could have done about Sylvia/Fedor. I mean Affliction gave Fedor a former UFC heavyweight champion who was beating up on Nog for 2.5 rounds until being submitted. But Rothwell is a C level fighter and showed it against AA. Rothwell just looked awful in that fight. Hes not particularly athletic, hes a mediocre striker with very limited skills on the ground. His most impressive win in his career is probably Roy Nelson whos a good but nowhere near elite fighter in MMA. It was a fairly predictable matchup. Lindland fight was awful, very sloppy but just how I thought the fight would go. And Barnett beat Rizzo. Which is what he was supposed to do. It wasnt a bad card and I actually enjoyed it and in hindsight the card was the best they could have done considering their available pool of fighters. It was certainly better than the UFN: Silva/Irvin that night.

 

You just don't get it. Dana has ran a successful org. to the top, there is no doubt. The problem people have (like me) is that he could have done it without all the "Look at me I'm Dana White" theatrics. This guy is an arrogant egomaniac who thinks people watch the UFC because HE is running it, NOT because of the fights. Its arrogance and self-centeredness and downright classless way he carries himself that people don't like. Its NOT the UFC itself, or the fighters, or the cage, or the rules. It is and ALWAYS has been Dana the person, NOT businessman, so YOU can stop defending him by saying "but look he put UFC on top and is a great businessman" IT IS THE MAN HIMSELF.


Oh and if he is so great and wants to give us the fights we want to see, why does he have to have exclusive rights to Fedor, why can't he cross promote? How come Randy isn't fighting Nog? You sound like the excuse maker to me.

 

He tried to sign Fedor...it's not that easy and Randy is not fighting Nog because Nog has been involved with the ultimate fighter and has a matchup against mir and randy has been in court lately and not fighting, you might not have been aware of that :roll:

 

Because if he wants to put on the best fights more than once, the organization has to survive and be successful, meaning you have to operate in such a way as to make sure you keep being profitable. Fedor's management just won't play ball in a way that conforms with the UFC's way of signing fighters. Nog already had a fight signed, Randy and Nog can still fight if they win.