Some questions about wrestlers in MMA...

As fighters or wrestlers?

I think Coleman is unquestionably the best fighter of the group, Frye sort of set the mold for wrestlers learning to box, and Severn is a legend for being the pioneer wrestler.

I believe Coleman is the most accomplished wrestler, but Severn did pretty well in Greco, but only on the national level I believe.

 

I think you are right, the thing is Judo isn't as appreciated in MMA by American's as it certainly should be. It's not easy to find excellent trainers in no gee judo, a lot of the moves don't transfer over without the gee, but if it were as popular as wrestling is in the U.S. I'd bet it would overtake wrestling as a practical art that transfers to MMA. It just needs the investment. I think it requires a little more talent, but I could be wrong.

 

I don't think any particular sport inherently requires more talent, it's just a matter of how many people you have to be better than.

In the US there are many more wrestlers than Judokas, so you have to be much better at wrestling to succeed, in Japan it would be the opposite.

 

There has been gold medalists who didn't do so well in MMA. As for the best fighter who has a wrestling backround. Henderson is the best.

 

the only place i see that word printed is in your post

are you sure your not one of the hardy brotherz ?

 

latineg is either taking the **** or ASTOUNDINGLY ignorant.

 

I've been looking into it and the UK has wrestling schools but it appears quite underground. We have a few schools that struggle to get funding. Our most recent success is Noel Loban winning a Bronze in the Light Heavyweight Los Angeles 84 Olympics.

Because we are hosting 2012, hopefully our guys will get more funding and wrestling can begin to flourish in the UK, especially with boom of MMA.

 

He doesn't have the same level of international credentials as others but Carlton Haselrig (http://www.wrestlinghalloffame.org/wrestlers.php?wrestler=1399) merits a mention. He won, the only man to do so, six NCAA championships.

In 1987, 1988 & 1989 he won the division 2 title. Back then that qualified him for the Division 1 tournament. He won that all three years as well.

Plus, and this isn't really relevant to this thread but is a nice bit of trivia, he played in the NFL after college and became a Pro Bowl offensive guard.

His MMA career (http://www.sherdog.com/fighter/Carlton-Haselrig-31553) hasn't been that impressive. He was 42 years old when he started it, and he has had severe substance abuse problems over the years. The last I heard he no showed a fight (or a weigh in) last year and was banned by the commission.

A 2008 article on Haselrig who at time was embarking on his MMA career...

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/08100/871612-66.stm

 

why does it have to be either or why cant it be both ?

stop limiting me !!!

 

you have come to the heart of the matter. within the relm of mma Georges St peire is the best wrestler. gomi outboxes jens pulver. noguera beats werdum. aoki is able to control sholin with his rubber guard.

this has been a informative thread when it comes to wrestling. I must confess I know nothing of wrestling credentials. I dont follow wrestling.

good thread.

 

yep. that is why i was very surprised that GSP were very sucessful on almost every takedown attempt against KOS.

 

Yes we do, i train in freestyle olympic in Manchester

 

Read on and check post 37.

 

Has Brad Pickett got a good bit of wrestling background, his takedowns in his last fight were non stop.