Some rate Hop over Hagler others rate Hagler over Hopkins

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  1. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    The bottom line Hagler always came to fight and Hopkins came to win. That's why Haglers
    had a 78% Ko percetage and Hopkins knocked out only 60% of his opponents . Let's not forget Hagler
    won 15 more fights and lost one less time then Hopkins. Hagler would never lose to the same guy twice as Hopkins did With Taylor. The same Taylor who
    squeaked out a decision against that bum Spinks. Hagler always tried for the Knockout. Hopkins hid behind a clock
    trying to win a decision landing 5 or 6 good punches a round
    If everyone fought like Hopkins the casual fan would never watch boxing
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    To say Hagler would never lose to the same guy twice like Hopkins did to Taylor is stupid.

    If anyone would never lose to the same guy twice, you'd expect it to be Hopkins. The fact that even he did shows that in boxing anything can happen.
     
  3. Hadrian

    Hadrian Member Full Member

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    I gotta give the nod to hagler.
     
  4. Illmatic

    Illmatic Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hagler is so loved by fans that he gets overrated. He was a great fighter, but Hops has surpassed him.
     
  5. warrior85

    warrior85 R.I.P THUNDER Full Member

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    there both great,but ill always side with hagler,he ruled the division when it was stronger&tougher
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hagler was better. Hopkins fought in a weak era for MW, no matter what anyone says. Hopkins is an ATG, but he hasn't done enough or to jump this high.
     
  7. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hagler may have been the better middleweight, who fought in a deeper era, but p4p, it's getting to the point where Hopkins could be rated above Marvelous Marvin on an all-time list.
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    P4P yes....but so is Jones P4P. ATG list, Hagler is higher than both still IMO.
     
  9. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    P4P....Hopkins

    At 160....Hagler
     
  10. Drew101

    Drew101 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It depends upon the criteria that one uses. If you tend to favor how a fighter looked at his absolute best, and the overall quality of opposition, then, yeah, Hagler likely gets the nod.

    But, if you favor intangibles like longevity, and the ability to produce quality performances at a higher weight, then the case could be made that a fighter like X could get the nod over a fighter like Hagler on an ATG list.

    I can see both sides of the arguement.
     
  11. achillesthegreat

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  12. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher VIP Member Full Member

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    Hagler - A Class
    BoringHops - C Class Bum with no teeth
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I can see your point. But Hopkins hasn't truly produced quality performances at a higher weight IMO. I don't know how much credit he gets for beating Wright at LHW, Wright jumped 2 weight classes to fight him, and was clearly not the same fighter there. He did beat Tarver and that was a good win at 175....he lost his first fight there. I am not sure he has done anything of great quality there.
     
  14. quintonjacksonfan

    quintonjacksonfan Active Member Full Member

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    Does anyone remember when college basketball had no shot clock? Teams would
    run the 4 corner offense and squeak out a 38-32 win. That's the way Hopkins fights
    He does nothing the first 6 rounds, his oponent does nothing either because Hopkins
    runs,Holds,butts, and throws low blows. The last 6 rounds Hopkins lands 4 or 5 good punches
    and wins a 115-113 decision. Hopkins could of knocked out Tarver but in typical Hopkins fashion he took a knee and ran out the clock.
     
  15. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what if Taylor had fought a PRIME Hopkins?