Some serious hypocrisy happening on OTR about Pacquiao, Floyd & Martinez...

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by horst, Mar 18, 2011.


  1. horst

    horst Guest

    I got to the first lie, then gave up.

    Mayweather was 152lbs in the ring vs Marquez. This was confirmed in The Ring magazine. :deal

    Nice try though.
     
  2. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    144 and fought at 148

    Mayweathers last fight he weighed in at 146 and fought at 149
     
  3. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Let's see the link.

    He was 150. And 149 with Mosely

    Pacquiao was actually 151 with Clottey
     
  4. Concrete

    Concrete Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Pac or Mayweather fighting Martinez would show more about Pac or Mayweather skills, talent and ability then they would show about Martinez skills, talent, and ability.
     
  5. DOUG QUAID

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    Pacquiao is the former 154lb champion of the world remember, he's big enough for 154. If Martinez can make 154lbs then he's not too big for Pacquiao.

    Martinez never won a belt or even fought at 168, if Bute, Froch and Ward want to go down to 160 or 164 he'll fight them.
     
  6. Ceej1979

    Ceej1979 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You know, there are a few fundamental problems with your complaints

    1: Pacquiao claims he is an "8 weight world champion". If you are a legitimate world champion at a weight, you don't refuse to fight the bigger guys in the division, as they have a chance of beating you

    2: A lot of people claim "Pacquiao has no challenges, and is unbeatable". That's fundamentally not true. He just doesn't want to take on the challenges

    3: When Floyd fought De la Hoya, I'm more than certain the in ring weight differential was 23 pounds. And he never even mentioned the fact until 4 years after the fight had ended.

    When he had the controversial decision, he could have blamed the weight, and highlighted how heavy Oscar was. He never did. And only mentioned it in an interview years later.

    What I'm saying is, if you want to fight at 154, you fight at 154, and take the concequences of that.

    If you're not good enough, shut your yap, and fight guys your own size
     
  7. bballchump11

    bballchump11 2011 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Hey you got the weights wrong for Floyd (he's smaller than you state), but for once I agree with you. Once I saw Martinez come in at 170 in his last fight I knew his chances of fighting Floyd and Pac were gone
     
  8. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Your contradicting yourself now. There is only a 5lb difference between Sergio and Margo on fight night weights which is secondary the main thing is that they come in at the weight they agree to at the weigh in.
    If Manny wants to come in 200lbs fightnight that is up to him. The weigh in the day before is what counts you know that that the extra weight come fightnight has its pros and cons you should know that too stop making excuses.
     
  9. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee VIP Member

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    Paul Williams used his brain as a shield..does that count?
     
  10. puertorricane

    puertorricane Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    neither pac or floyd are top 50 ATG fighters

    :hat
     
  11. FORMIDABLE

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  12. DavidChao

    DavidChao A contender,.. a somebody Full Member

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    Has that been said in this thread? Was that the main point of the OP? My God.
     
  13. turk182

    turk182 not newbie Full Member

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    i agree.
     
  14. booradley

    booradley Mean People Kick Ass! Full Member

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    After Pavlik beat Taylor the first thing he did was move up to a higher weight, at Jermain's request, and fight a rematch. Team Pavlik asked Martinez to do the same thing for Kelly that Kelly did for Jermain. Martinez/diBella refused to even discuss the idea.

    In 2008 when Pavlik was looking for a big money fight, he moved up 2 divisions, and fought Hopkins. Kelly got his ass whooped, but that does not change the fact that he moved up for a money fight.

    Martinez wants a money fight, so he keeps calling out guys who belong at 147 and 140. Martinez's very first official act as middleweight champ was to call out Mosely. The same Mosely who fought a draw with Mora who got his butt beat by Bryan Vera.
     
  15. nuketurnal

    nuketurnal N-Bomb Full Member

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    I thought Martinez and DiBella already said Pac is too small?

    Btw, how come Floyd doesn't usually give his fight night weight?