Some Takedown Defense Techniques From Frank Shamrock; Potentially Suited for Boxers?

Too true. The battle of the aging dinosaurs :deal

 

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To OP - I agree with pretty much everything Frank talks about. If you want video evidence look at Maurice Smith or Mirko Crocop fights.

 

Yes, it is feasible to train in but has to be tempered with training in all areas because sometimes a takedown is inevitable. You have to understand the ground positioning and submissions game as well if you want to be successful. If you can survive on the ground and get back to your feet you can start all over with your boxing or kickboxing.

Taekdowns are invetible. Maurice Smith and Mirko Crocop were the two most succesful kickboxers to crossover into MMA and they learned enough defensive grappling to allow them to utilize their kickboxing game - but they wound up taken down plenty of times. They had to learn to defend and get back to their feet so they could fight to their strengths.

 

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Vladimir vs. Haye aswell.

 

You guys are adorable. It's so cute that you think it's that simple. Naivete is fun in infants and kids...

 

Who says is simple? Off course to be suscessfull you need train wrestling and grappling.

 

There aren't any little movements that are going to prevent you from being taken down from a good wrestler. You can help yourself by turning, creating angles, keeping your footwork going... but that also keeps you from putting forth your own offense and it isn't as if a good wrestler isn't used to countering your movements, and cutting down your angle faster than you can recover your own position to strike. Wrestlers are used to the other wrestler in front of them moving, and doing the same thing... it becomes instinct to think ahead and also read into the patterns of what he is doing.

If you are simply going to step outside of our lead leg every time... wouldn't it be simple to take a fake shot, then reshoot at the angle in which we know you are going? That's is what good wrestlers do all of the time. Lower your level and pop out as if you are going to take a shot... get your opponent to react... then attack as you are trying to regain your own position.

Also... and maybe the most simple aspect of this... he is basically just showing a person shooting from out in open... in front... without any set ups what-so-ever. Generally, a good wrestler isn't going to shoot without setting it up. Which means... a wrestler is going to make his own moves, to put you exactly where he wants you. This can be done from open... or it can be done when we get our hands on the opponent. In MMA, it can be something as simple as flipping out the jab, and shooting during the split second that it takes you to react.

You also have to remember that all of this is considering that you as the striker aren't putting out any of your own offense. Every single strike that you throw puts you in a vulnerable position to be taken down. So... in the end, you are going to have to learn how to sprawl, beat somebody down with your hips... keep head control, learn to stay off of your knees and on your toes... ect...

 

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